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    If you have any problem with wheat your likely to have bloat and other issues with beer. Just no getting around it. Plus you are drinking calories. Plus alcohol always burns first so its supercharged carbs . And to answer choco beer made of wheat in an intolerant individual will have inflammatory, autoimmune, and hormonal effect that will lead to a general environment of stress and fat storage.

    Anyhow, there was a fella from the other side of the spectrum on MDA testomonial of the week who drank a couple beers every night and reached single digit body fat and terrific health. Obviously he's on the heartier end of the wheat tolerance spectrum. That said he was also VLC and his only carb indulgence was the beer.
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    I think though that it is worth ditching the beer for a month or two on the chance it is gluten intolerance. Not going to hurt.

    I can eat small amounts of wheat and drink a beer or two and be no worse for the wear, but I figured it out.

    And I know a BUNCH of guys that drink beer without a beer gut; most also work out and otherwise watch what they eat, but, no they don't have a gut.

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    Tell him to have his thyroid tested by the doctor. Tell him to demand not just a standard thyroid test
    but the more advanced tests. Better yet go to a different doctor, one specializing in environmental
    medicine and allergies etc., that type of doctor is far more likely to order the proper thyroid tests.

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    Alchohol in general can make you deshydrated and bloated at the same time. Here where I live beer are also made made from maize or rice and there are no diffence from beer that comes from wheat in respect of "fattening", and no people that I have ever heard about here are "intolerant" to any beer...

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    Another vote for ditch the beer. At least for a couple of weeks to see if it helps. If it does, it's clearly worth doing for a bit longer. I've basically ditched alcohol until I hit maintenance mode. It's just not worth it and I find it easier to cut something completely than try to moderate. Another thing that helped me was cutting out dairy. I didn't do it to improve weight loss, but that's the effect it had. Maybe as others have said, use double cream for tea (yes, I know it sounds wrong, but it works, because you lose much less) if he can't take black tea. I'm vlc and I prefer to eat that way as I don't really miss carbs. I didn't think I could drink black tea, but I've got used to it and use weaker blends rather than my PG Tips.

    Also tracking. It's worth knowing just how much you're eating and what your ratios are before messing with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    For portable meals I chop up some cooked meat and keep it in a tupperware. I will either put a sweet potato in the microwave and eat it with the meat or else I will cook up some vegetables and put it in the tupperware to carry with me. The meat is usually leftover from the night before or else keep cooked chicken on hand in the freezer and thaw some every few days.
    Just a heads up. Tupperware made before 2010 is chock full of BPA.
    Don't use any of the old stuff. And I wouldn't trust any new stuff either.

    To the OP: According to the success stoires, those first 50 pounds are pretty easy; it's the last 20 which are more difficult. If your husband has been Primal for 3-4 YEARS and made no progress at all, I don't think a tweak like IF-ing or gluten free beer is going to help. I agree with the recommendation of getting thoroughly tested by a specialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neckhammer View Post
    If you have any problem with wheat your likely to have bloat and other issues with beer. Just no getting around it. Plus you are drinking calories. Plus alcohol always burns first so its supercharged carbs . And to answer choco beer made of wheat in an intolerant individual will have inflammatory, autoimmune, and hormonal effect that will lead to a general environment of stress and fat storage.

    Anyhow, there was a fella from the other side of the spectrum on MDA testomonial of the week who drank a couple beers every night and reached single digit body fat and terrific health. Obviously he's on the heartier end of the wheat tolerance spectrum. That said he was also VLC and his only carb indulgence was the beer.
    It's also important to note that most beer doesn't contain wheat. It's barley providing the gluten, which is less problematic since it is less likely to be GMO.

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    Is Non-Alcoholic Beer Healthy? | Mark's Daily Apple

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    The only thing that might keep you away is the gluten content. The market for good gluten-free beers is somewhat limited, and the market for good nonalcoholic gluten-free beers is even more limited. Luckily, the brewing process generally removes most of the gluten from beer, and, at any rate, the gluten content of beer pales in comparison to the gluten content of something like bread. One test of fifty beers found that 35 of them contained between 1 and 200 ppm of gluten, and 15 had less than 1 ppm. As a comparison, wheat bread has roughly 75,000 ppm of gluten. According to the World Health Organization, food with less than 20 ppm can be labeled “gluten-free,” though your mileage may vary.
    So, in closing, you'd have to drink 1,000 Miller Lites to roughly equal the gluten content of a calorically equivalent serving of white bread.

    Plus, the beer is fermented as well, which should help degrade the gluten on top of that.

    I see virtually no point in drinking gluten-free beer as regular beer contains barely any extra gluten versus gluten-free beers. Now, if you're drinking unfiltered wheat beer I don't know what that outcome would be, but standard fare - Bud Light, Miller Lite, Heiniken, Yuengling...I'm not concerned. Fattening? Oh yea, alcohol calories on top of normal calories in a surplus is about as fattening as it gets. But I couldn't care less about trace fermented gluten.
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    I react with classical intestinal symptoms to alcoholic beverages that contain gluten, and on the gluten-sensitivity scale, I'm not a hot reactor. To assume the gluten in regular beer should not trigger a reaction in a person who is sensitive to gluten in some way is an invalid assumption.

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    Your poor fat husband. Too much advice and now it's going to become a choco carb/calorie rant. Good luck to him. I hope he finds something that works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kathleen View Post
    Beer. Beer makes you fat, and it keeps you fat. If he really insists, get him some gluten free beer like New Grist.
    um no. just no.

    beer in and of itself doesn't make you fat. it's the over consumption of calories via beer and not accounting for the calories being consumed or from the increased eating people tend to do when drinking. I had beer with a friend twice a week during my last dieting bout and still managed to lose 1.5lbs a week.

    and gluten beer is only special if you are gluten sensitive or celiac. It may have the added benefit of slightly lower calories though I can't attest to that because I've never looked into the calorie content of gluten free beer

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