then when you tried to lose the 30lbs, your starved/malnourished yourself, and exercised to the point of stressing your system way the hell out. and you wonder why you couldn't lose weight then. because every fiber of your being was screaming at you and telling you to store the fat based upon the terrible state of health you were in. this is a no brainer. the same people who argue that its more than CICO, are using their own logic against them in this thread. mind is officially boggled
What made me eat Paleo...
Personally I was diagnosed with a brain disease(autoimmune connected) and one of the first pronouncements was "no sodium".
That removed every single processed food one the face of the earth from my choice list...
It wasn't a stretch to say "no grains" at all as I found that my earlier disease that I had already been living with for 13 years had also been reclassified as an autoimmune condition.
Beans tastes like a dirt road with no salt, so there's that.
I've never been one to eat processed oils... always olive oil and natural animal fats thanks to growing up on a farm.
What was I left with?
Fruit, vegetables, dairy, nuts, meat.
I actually discovered the book/this website after I had been eating pretty much this way for a couple of months already.
I was one of those people who ate the prescribed oatmeal for breakfast, the piece of fruit and the low fat turkey on whole wheat with lots of salad stuff piled on it for lunch... and was starving to the point of having the hypoglycemic shakes at 3-4pm even though on paper it looked like a perfect "diet" according to a nutritionist. Dinners were boneless skinless chicken breasts, a cup of brown rice, and salad dressed in dressing made as low fat as possible with mostly herbs fruit juice and vinegar.
Most of the time all I could think about was being hungry. There was zero satisfaction in food.
I don't eat anything all day now.
I IF all day and I came to this naturally on Paleo/Primal... I didn't "try" to make myself do this.
Because my autoimmune issues have jacked up my system and hormones so bad I lose weight extremely slowly... but I have lost a good amount of weight without "TRYING" or feeling deprived.
An 1 year ago I couldn't reliably walk 2 blocks on any given day because of my brain issues.
Friday I hiked 10k unexpectedly on my morning cup of coffee, a small packet of nuts, and a 70oz camelbak of water.
“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.
I've always been a free thinker, and have considered my mental health to be part of my healthy lifestyle that's why I don't consume crap in the form of food or entertainment. I don't feed it to my child either. But I do have some compassion for those who are not as fortunate as me. I was skinny as a child (I think that was luck), my mom stayed home and cooked real food and I am thankful for that. In my formative years I was exposed to unconventional ways of living and thinking, I grew up questioning common wisdom so the dominant destructive ways of eating and the cultural forces that influence the way women view their bodies never really took a hold of me. I know I am not typical, but I have compassion for those that were raised in the toxic culture we live in.
Like Neckhammer said earlier the damage that is done by those toxic influences (physical and mental) are not easy to reverse and your lack of compassion is not helping. So why don't men lift could be because they don't want to be judged by people like you.
its kind of funny that you'll snap judgement on me for judging other people, isn't it? hypocrisy at its finest. if anything, I've inspired more people (in real life, not on an internet forum) to work out, eat right, etc. so if you think men aren't lifting because of people like me, i don't know what to say.
So why don't men lift … could be because ….
As a big (fat) guy that was strong like bull in my youth ... like I could easily unload a whole pickup truck full of grain caring a 100lbs bag on each shoulder for a few hundred yards threw the barn. … I never got the social benefit from being strong or lifting heavy things … just the opposite … as everyone especially the girls made sure I new I was the biggest kid in class and thus the last one they would ever think of dating … and from seeing most women I knew always running off after the small, skinny, wize-ass this just confirmed the mindset that socially big and strong is bad, very bad ...
So what was the point? It’s not like how much I can lift or how big my guns are mattered … at least not when you still have a belly. …. And as to the comment about pro athletes and body builder being inspiration … I was always told they got that way from steroid or other performance enhancing drugs and all day training which didn’t allow them time for a real job so must be they had some one paying their way all the time - - ie nothing I had or would ever come close to having so don’t even think about it.
Not making excuse just laying out some personally experiences that helped frame the misguided thinking and choices I made.
Last edited by BigChris; 06-17-2013 at 11:10 AM.
04/23/2012 Max Weight : 448 lbs
01/01/2014 Initial Weight : 428 lbs
12/31/2014 Current weight : 318 lbs
12/31/2015 Goal weight : 208 lbs
We did do leg work. It just led us to the wrong answer I guess. It's not like I didn't keep looking around for solutions, it's just I kept finding the same "low fat" solution from all resources.all of you are "victims" of oprah and shape magazine, and dr. oz. then suddenly, you did some research on your own and found MDA or another paleo site, and your lives magically changed. imagine if you put in the leg-work of giving a crap about yourself
I found out about paleo from my brother who had success with it.
Check out my blog. Hope to share lots of great recipes and ideas!
An example of a recent string of events from real life:
Friend: "I've been stressed out lately and signed up for a gym membership."
Me: "Oh yeah? What kind of stuff have you been doing?"
Friend: "Some stuff with dumbbells, some pull-ups, etc."
Me: "What are you trying to accomplish?"
Friend: "Relieve some stress and gain some strength and muscle, but I don't want to go to the gym often or eat a lot like you"
Me: "Does your gym have barbells?"
Friend: "They have Smith machines, and fixed weight bars up to 70lb"
Me: "Find a new gym"
Friend: "It's good enough for what I want to do"
Me: "No, really, find a new gym. You can go to the gym 2-3 times a week, do 5 exercises total, and you will be stronger and see more results if you have access to proper barbells."
Friend: "...Yeah, maybe..."
::3 months later after minimal results with his previous routine
Friend: "Ok, I switched gyms"
Me: "Have you tried doing the basic barbell stuff I told you about before? Squats, deads, presses, bench, and some chins?"
Friend: "Yeah... I hate them..."
Me: "Me too, what about the results?"
Friend: "...I'm too wiped from things like squats to be stressed out, so that helps on that front, and I'm definitely stronger than before because my whole body seems to be responding"
Me: "Welcome to the club"
Friend: "You suck"
so many damaged personalities in this thread, it is unreal. Just read through it all
there is very rarely an excuse to be "obese". But these individuals have become very good at making them. My mother had thyroid cancer and had it removed a few years ago, but yet at 54 she remains a healthier weight / appearance than most women in their 20's/30's. Why? Proper nutrition, and exercise. She has lifelong habits that encouraged this to continue.
Lot of hurt feelings in here, mostly by the "i was obese but no longer am thanks to MDA" crowd. Congratulations on turning your life around and getting more fit & healthy! Seriously. However... Do you deserve a cookie for your "hard work"? Absolutely fucking not. You took the easy route for a much longer time, and paid for it. For lots of people, staying active and eating healthy is a day to day thing and has been for YEARS. You don't see those people parading around saying look at my results! It is just a daily thing for them, and always has been. Nothing to see here, move along so to speak.
If you want to be obese (and therefore very likely unhealthy) that is your own personal choice. Just like it is my personal choice to look down on you for it. For example, I've experimented with party drugs in my past, and I wouldn't be upset if someone looked down on me for it. I know it is unhealthy, but it was my CHOICE to try them. But I wouldn't go around attempting to parade those drugs as healthy or socially acceptable, which is exactly what the obese do with their "curves talk", plus sized mannequins in stores, dove ads, etc... trying to make an unhealthy lifestyle choice into something that is socially embraced. It isn't, and never will be.
Nobodies perfect, but you are cheating yourself if you don't do the very best you can in everything you do.
yeah you are
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