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    That said....drugs are bad... Mmmmkay.

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    There is no question that ADHD is increasing in this country. It's not a matter of increased diagnosis. It really is increasing, unlike things like mental retardation, which has remained at a constant level. I think it has to do with prenatal nutrition, where pregnant women are encouraged to eat less saturated fat and more grains, which doesn't provide what is necessary to build the baby's nervous system.

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    I talked to a marine biologist yesterday. The oceans are fucked. We're stewing the earth in poisons. So not only are we surrounded by them but we ingest them via prescription medicine and bad "food." So of course we're getting sicker children. We're frogs in a pot is what we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    There is no question that ADHD is increasing in this country. It's not a matter of increased diagnosis. It really is increasing, unlike things like mental retardation, which has remained at a constant level.
    Although I agree with your assertion on nutrition I am not convinced as to this part of your remark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neckhammer View Post
    Although I agree with your assertion on nutrition I am not convinced as to this part of your remark.
    Which part is it you are not convinced of? Both ADHD and autism-spectrum conditions are increasing, and conventional medicine has no clue why that might be. If this was purely an artifact of improved diagnosis, other unrelated conditions like mental retardation ought to be increasingly diagnosed as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    Which part is it you are not convinced of? Both ADHD and autism-spectrum conditions are increasing, and conventional medicine has no clue why that might be. If this was purely an artifact of improved diagnosis, other unrelated conditions like mental retardation ought to be increasingly diagnosed aswell.
    If diagnosis techniques are getting better for autism and ADHD it doesn't mean the same is necessarily true of other types of disabilities. They are all different disabilities with different techniques for diagnoses. Also, the increased diagnoses rates may simply be due to greater societal awareness and understanding of certain types of disabilities but not others.

    Oh, and the language you used in this post is quite disrespectful and bigoted. Just FYI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumroll View Post
    If diagnosis techniques are getting better for autism and ADHD it doesn't mean the same is necessarily true of other types of disabilities. They are all different disabilities with different techniques for diagnoses. Also, the increased diagnoses rates may simply be due to greater societal awareness and understanding of certain types of disabilities but not others.

    Oh, and the language you used in this post is quite disrespectful and bigoted. Just FYI.
    What? Mental retardation is a specific diagnosis that leads to certain types of educational accommodations, not a slur. Perhaps you should study special education and work in schools, like I did.

    If you search online you will see that what I am saying is commonly accepted in education. Even if there is overdiagnosis, the incidence is rising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    What? Mental retardation is a specific diagnosis that leads to certain types of educational accommodations, not a slur. Perhaps you should study special education and work in schools, like I did.

    If you search online you will see that what I am saying is commonly accepted in education. Even if there is overdiagnosis, the incidence is rising.
    Well, I worked for several non-profit organizations that advocated on behalf of individuals with disabilities for a number of years and I know that if I had allowed the use of the "r-word" on any materials published by these organizations I would have been thrown to the curb faster and more violently than you can imagine. And I respect that.

    I still think there are better ways we can refer to such people without using that word. Just my opinion on the matter, "clinical diagnoses" aside. I just believe that using more "person first/person friendly" language should be standard in all disability-related fields.

    Oh, hey, a non-autistic trying to teach someone on the spectrum about their own disability.

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    I grew up in a different country and with parents who are biologists, so to me there is a definite perceptible fixation on drugs to do things that can be done homeopathically. Sore throat? Tea with honey, not 3 shots of Dayquil.

    Just this morning, I was talking to my friend who said that she's had 3 sinus infections in the past 6 weeks - and has taken 3 courses of antibiotics! When I said that seemed ridiculous, she said that it was different ones. When pressed further by me saying I still thought it was an exorbitant amount, she said that the doctor gave her the prescription so it was okay. All I could do was mutter "Silly doctors" and drop the issue.
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