look for 'heirloom'
I'm going to plant a small garden within the next 2 weeks. I'm going to start with tomatoes and cucumbers. This may be a silly question but do I have to worry about the tomato plant being GMO? I'm just planning to go to Lowe's to buy the tomato plants. Are there any specifics I need to know?
Any info on seeds/plants/etc on starting a garden would be appreciated!
look for 'heirloom'
yeah you are
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If it's a "hybrid" it's been "genetically" modified... It may have been "modified" by natural breeding, or by artificial means. In either case the resultant plant is a mix of traits of it's parents. Heirlooms are good varieties to grow, and there are some very good one out there. May have trouble finding them at Lowes though.....
I'm not sure why everyone gets their knickers in a knot over the term GMO..... every plant has been "genetically modified".... my problem with "GMO" has to do with the intended modification. I can see that some modifications would potentially be bad and others maybe not so much..., i.e. has a natural levels of pyrethrin in the fruit from inserting the "pyrethrin" gene from chrysanthemums in to squash. Is a genetic modification in corn to have 23 rows per ear instead of 18 rows a bad modification? Or a particular color in squash, or shape of pumpkin, seedless watermelon? I doubt it.... but having a pesticide produced by my peas? ehhh, probably not such a good idea....
If you want a good tomato for sauce, the "standard" is La Roma. It is a plum type, meaty tomato, and has been the "standard" for a very long time (since the 50's)
A good "slicing" tomato variety is "Celebrity", which is somewhat smaller than a "Beefsteak" tomato.
Both varieties will need a cage to help hold the up
Doc, I think there is a big difference between genetically modifying something through selective breeding, and screwing with a plant's dna in a lab. What I'd bet the proverbial farm on is that when Monsanto is genetically modifying something, they could care less whether the resultant crop is good or bad for my health.
I think you and I are close to the same age. Do you remember how good even store bought tomatoes tasted when we were kids? Now, most store bought tomatoes, even Romas, don't taste like anything.
Artificial scenario 1: A farmer or gardener has two tomatoes. One is big and beautiful with a moderately good taste. The other is kind of scrawny, but tastes like a sun lit day. S/he decides to try to crossbreed/pollinate them to create one bodacious tomato.
Artificial scenario 2: A corporation decides that it wants its customers to be dependent on them, so they create seeds that will grow crops with non-viable seeds so those customers have to buy seeds every season. The resultant fruit is also stable when sprayed with the most hellish levels of pesticides. These crops travel well. They have 40% fewer nutrients than family farmers or gardeners get. The motive here is not to produce a beautiful, nutritious, delicious tomato, but to produce a red thing that embarrasses real tomatoes, but creates a lot of red things per square foot.
There is a qualitative difference in those two scenarios.
Also, to get one's knickers in a knot, one has to actually wear knickers.
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"Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine
Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.
In that regard, I agree with guys like Joel Salatin. He is dead on right about how ag can be sustainable, with better quality products delivered to the market through better farming practices and more local producers.
As far as knickers go, I didn't suspect that you wore any... so it was a rhetorical statement.....
No matter what kind of things you do in the field, your crossbred hybrid tomatos aren't going to acquire fish genes. There are fish and human genes in some of the GM crops out there. Take that how you will, but know there is a difference.
Now you do a pretty good job touching on one of the points of GMing crops: Marketing. Tough things that'll ripen in transit so they can go far and not be mush at the end. However, I cannot support that as an individual because we largely need to work on reducing our food miles. Even if it means I'm going to have to say good bye to bananas, shipped in from South America as they are.
...can bananas get grown anywhere in the U.S.? I'm going to go research this.
I don't think you need to worry about Monsanto-style GMOs in your store-bought gardening plants. Selective breeding can be done as simply as by you saving seeds from an especially strong and productive plant in your own garden.
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..US banana production is very limited; in 2009, US total banana production reached almost 7,000 mmt, or 0.01% of the total world production, on an estimated 16,000 acres. Hawaii is by far the largest banana producer in the United States, followed by Florida. Banana production in Hawaii has followed a downward trend, from 13,181 mmt in 2000 to 8,090 mmt in 2010. Hawaii produces mainly the conventional Cavendish variety and the Hawaiian apple banana, which are sold in the local markets due to high labor and land costs. The major US banana exporter is Florida, which produces mainly Thai and cooking bananas (Bluggoe type). In addition, US banana producers are seeking opportunities in the organic and specialty segments of the banana market in Florida and the coastal region of Georgia (Schupska 2008).
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From what little I have read the "fish tomato" was never a commercially viable product, so there are no fish tomatos on the market....
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