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    What Supplements Do You Take for Depression/Anxiety/Mood Problems & Why?

    So I am desperately trying to get my lifelong moderately severe depression & a bit of anxiety under control. I was really hoping being primal would help & it has helped with some of the mood swings. I have been primal for about 2 months & in addition to losing fat & bloat feel pretty good about that. I've also taken up yoga, which helps me to meditate but after I'm off my mat I still feel bad.

    I have a terrible inner critic telling me I'll never be good enough, racing negative thoughts, bad mood, not hopeful. I also have an inability to feel appropriate emotions, rather good or bad, an apathy. Sometimes it's impossible to get myself out of bed; I stare/think about all the tasks that need to be done but can't bring myself to do them. I have trouble concentrating. I have a wicked temper & can be irritable. I put on a tough front but I am overly sensitive to some things like loss/rejection & blame myself endlessly when they happen even if they are completely out of my control/not my fault. I tend to cry when I get mad/sad. Lately when I go out with my friends I just want to crawl back into my bed & quit pretending that I am enjoying this. I isolate myself a lot, push away my loved ones, block out the world & feel incredibly lonely.

    God, I sound awful but I am actually quite high-functioning; I just landed a great research assistant job, have an excellent GPA in my epidemiology masters program, friends that love/adore me, etc. After a terrible situation with a guy sent me spiraling downward a psychiatrist prescribed a low dose of Wellbutrin which I currently am on. I really dislike the idea of antidepressants for me personally; it's a mental hang-up about me feeling weak. I also take fish oil caplets & a multivitamin. Also I have just began cognitive behavioral therapy.

    I would greatly appreciate any insight from people who have experimented with supplements of any kind. Thank you!
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    Where did this inner voice come from? When did you first start hearing it? Was there a first time? Did someone in your childhood treat you this way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    Where did this inner voice come from? When did you first start hearing it? Was there a first time? Did someone in your childhood treat you this way?
    It's always been there since I can remember, even in play as a small child.
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    For me, prevention means good diet, physical activity, fish oil, and vitamin D which is all stuff vital for good health anyway. When I'm in distress (anxiety, low mood, etc.) long walks and cheerful music are applied. For extreme anxiety, ONE drink can be helpful, but I'm sure many would disagree and your mileage may vary.

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    Hey fire tiger, Ugh, I hear you and feel your pain. Eating clean definitely helps me, but I think the problem is deeper than that.

    Have you ever had a full hormone profile done?
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    Quote Originally Posted by YogaBare View Post
    Hey fire tiger, Ugh, I hear you and feel your pain. Eating clean definitely helps me, but I think the problem is deeper than that.

    Have you ever had a full hormone profile done?
    Yeah, I knew it would be no magic fix but I really actually want to beat this. I am trying to explore all the different options. The yoga has been great and I think the therapy will be helpful but I'm not sure those alone will be enough. I would like a blood work-up including hormones & vitamin D. I can see if my doctor would do it but I kind of doubt it since my insurance might not want to cover it.
    Aren't we all just works in progress?

    Using primal as a tool to heal depression/anxiety & promote overall well-being:
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    Quote Originally Posted by firetiger View Post
    Yeah, I knew it would be no magic fix but I really actually want to beat this. I am trying to explore all the different options. The yoga has been great and I think the therapy will be helpful but I'm not sure those alone will be enough. I would like a blood work-up including hormones & vitamin D. I can see if my doctor would do it but I kind of doubt it since my insurance might not want to cover it.
    I suffered from depression from a very, very young age too, and I probably have a similar background in that I tried everything: yoga, mediation, therapy, diet. Everything except SSRIs! But I've come to the conclusion that when depression goes that far back, there's something more going on than talking or exercise can alleviate. I don't think depression is a sign of a healthy individual (sorry if that sounds harsh). After a lifetime of symptoms, I finally got a full hormone panel done (age 31), and found out that my hormones are totally out of whack. It can cause all kinds of issues, and if you're a sensitive person it will effect you mentally as well as physically.

    I would 100% recommend getting a hormone panel done. It might be a bit pricey, but seriously: you could go to a billion doctors and not find the answers you're looking for. THe blood doesn't lie. At least you'll know then if there is some physical malfunction that's causing you to feel this way (it could have began at a young age - mine did). Yoga, open communication, positive thinking, healthy eating, exercise are essential, but at the same time, supplemental imo.
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    Quote Originally Posted by YogaBare View Post
    I would 100% recommend getting a hormone panel done. It might be a bit pricey, but seriously: you could go to a billion doctors and not find the answers you're looking for. THe blood doesn't lie. At least you'll know then if there is some physical malfunction that's causing you to feel this way (it could have began at a young age - mine did). Yoga, open communication, positive thinking, healthy eating, exercise are essential, but at the same time, supplemental imo.
    I can try and see if she will do the tests. I have been on birth control since I was 16 (for irregular cycle) so it's hard to tell how my cycle is naturally. The reason I seriously want to get better this time is because I lived in Perú for 2 years (Peace Corps) & I was able to actually experience contentment. I felt connected to the world rather than just going through the motions as I am now. That feeling went away about 6 months after I returned stateside and began my masters program.

    I'm stressing out right now because I see my psychiatrist tomorrow & I know he's going to want to raise the Wellbutrin dose as I responded at first but since have responded to the medication less and less. It just seems like a temporary fix for a permanent problem rather than a solution. I've been on SSRIs before and responded to them but they didn't "fix" the problem either. I won't go back to SSRIs as that time period directly correlates with a large amount of weight gain.
    Aren't we all just works in progress?

    Using primal as a tool to heal depression/anxiety & promote overall well-being:
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    Quote Originally Posted by firetiger View Post
    I can try and see if she will do the tests. I have been on birth control since I was 16 (for irregular cycle) so it's hard to tell how my cycle is naturally. The reason I seriously want to get better this time is because I lived in Perú for 2 years (Peace Corps) & I was able to actually experience contentment. I felt connected to the world rather than just going through the motions as I am now. That feeling went away about 6 months after I returned stateside and began my masters program.

    I'm stressing out right now because I see my psychiatrist tomorrow & I know he's going to want to raise the Wellbutrin dose as I responded at first but since have responded to the medication less and less. It just seems like a temporary fix for a permanent problem rather than a solution. I've been on SSRIs before and responded to them but they didn't "fix" the problem either. I won't go back to SSRIs as that time period directly correlates with a large amount of weight gain.
    Personally, what I have found with depression is that CHANGE is a very successful alleviator of symptoms...! But it's not permanent. I spent eight years moving house, and even now I still travel all the time. It's a distraction for me. I don't mean to presume this is the case for you: I'm sure living in Peru had lots of benefits other than that, but I don't believe that changing external circumstances is the answer, or that there's any one person / place that will bring us happiness.

    It sounds like your stress levels got upped when you started your MA, and maybe this gradually brought you to the edge and over? I think people who suffer from depression have a default stress setting which is higher than others. Any excess stress is much harder for us to cope with.

    I can't really comment on the meds, since I've never been on them... I know they do work for some people, but idk... it always seems to be a temporary solution to get them out of a fix, you know? My recent experiences with docs has confirmed to me that most don't have a clue what they're doing.

    In relation to getting hormones tested: it's not just sex hormones you could look at. There's things like thyroid function, serotonin, cortisol... all of which can contribute to feelings of depression. I know I'm kind of pushing the blood work, but I've just been plauged with depression for so many years (to the point of nearly taking my own life), and I know now that trying to fix it yourself is really, really hard. You need something concrete to work with. Hence, the bloods.

    Also, the pill can really fuck with the ol' hormones. Another reason to get it all checked out. If you're worried your doc won't give you the tests, just bamboozle her with a list of symptoms longer than her arm

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    Be careful with herbs and supplements, that can be very strong, particularly herbs. I strongly advice not to self-medicate with them without guidance from a naturopath, and don't mix with other medication without guidance either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Omni View Post
    medications just relieve symptoms and don't address core issues.
    Agree.
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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