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    Though I found her book interesting and potentially helpful, that was my impression as well.
    Agree... I found the book prescriptive and yet speculative.

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    If you've been on a decent dose for a very long time, don't get discouraged if you don't immediately notice a change. When I stopped (admittedly 20 years ago) I thought I had totally bypassed all of the problems my friends had talked about when they went off them. It wasn't until 3 months later that I suddenly broke out in acne and got emotional. It took that long to exit my system. It might just take longer than you would think to see any changes.
    My skin changed a lot when I came off the pill too...
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    Anxiety is more my albatross than depression, but they're a lot alike. A lot of VitD helps me as far as supplements go. But when I'm feeling like the whole world is a land of hassle, 25 mg of trazodone for two or three days pulls me back to "the world doesn't suck." Like a lot of people, I don't really want to "need" an Rx to make me feel better. But that's just the way it is for me. I'd rather be a little dependent on a drug than to be so freaked out by anxiety that I won't go out my front door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firetiger View Post
    First off, thank you so much for your replies!


    I read it yesterday; it scared the shit out of me. I fall into every single one of her mood problem categories. The amount of supplements is overwhelming; I wouldn't even know where to begin.
    Funny, I felt the same way then I read The Diet Cure. It becomes clear in that book that the aminos are the most important supplements. I am currently supplementing l-tyrosine, l-glutamine and l-phenylalinine at 500mg 3x / day. At night I take 100mg 5htp and a combo pill of l-theanine and Gaba. My sleep has improved immensely. I just feel more stable all day long. It is easier to eat right and exercise the way I need to.

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    You've received a ton of great advice already, I'm just chiming in and seconding those really. I did not do well on Wellbutrin at all, in fact I got worse and let's just say an incident related to a black box warning forced me off of it (and any other mood altering medications) for good. I second the advice of ditching hormonal birth control, while it gets worse for a while when your hormones are stabilizing afterward, it's worth it. I have a non-hormonal IUD now, I am so much more myself and can't believe I spent so many years of my life living that way. 5-HTP was helpful during the stabilization period, but I don't feel that I need it now. Vitamin D is another good one, I got tons of sun this past summer and felt amazing, but once we moved back into a house and winter came, I felt the negativity creeping back in. I started supplementing D3, which helped a lot, and now that spring is here and I'm outdoors a lot more, the improvement is vast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebbles67 View Post
    At night I take 100mg 5htp and a combo pill of l-theanine and Gaba. My sleep has improved immensely.
    I never could take 5-HTP late in the day. Gave me REALLY vivid dreams, so much so that they would wake me up.

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    5-HTP was helpful during the stabilization period, but I don't feel that I need it now.
    Same here. It helped me over a rough patch, but I have no clue what it's like long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebbles67 View Post
    Funny, I felt the same way then I read The Diet Cure. It becomes clear in that book that the aminos are the most important supplements. I am currently supplementing l-tyrosine, l-glutamine and l-phenylalinine at 500mg 3x / day. At night I take 100mg 5htp and a combo pill of l-theanine and Gaba. My sleep has improved immensely. I just feel more stable all day long. It is easier to eat right and exercise the way I need to.
    Sleep is not too bad for me actually. It used to be years ago but not anymore. I have actually already started the 5-HTP (100 at lunch, 100 at dinner) since I had responded to SSRIs in the past & since it won't interfere with the Wellbutrin (works on norepinephrine/dopamine). I need to re-read the book at a slower pace. I definitely fit EVERY category, not just barely but with almost all of the symptoms. I have a neuroscience background so brain biochemistry I understand & what she says about the precursors available to make the different chemicals makes sense. However, it's not like I was not eating protein before. Even on a CW diet I focused on protein intake. For me it seems to be a genetic predisposition of some sort. I'm willing to experiment with the other supplements but am going to stick to 5-HTP and look for an effect.

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    You've received a ton of great advice already, I'm just chiming in and seconding those really. I did not do well on Wellbutrin at all, in fact I got worse and let's just say an incident related to a black box warning forced me off of it (and any other mood altering medications) for good. I second the advice of ditching hormonal birth control, while it gets worse for a while when your hormones are stabilizing afterward, it's worth it. I have a non-hormonal IUD now, I am so much more myself and can't believe I spent so many years of my life living that way. 5-HTP was helpful during the stabilization period, but I don't feel that I need it now. Vitamin D is another good one, I got tons of sun this past summer and felt amazing, but once we moved back into a house and winter came, I felt the negativity creeping back in. I started supplementing D3, which helped a lot, and now that spring is here and I'm outdoors a lot more, the improvement is vast.
    Wellbutrin definitely gave me a boost to get things done/get out of bed. I still have to have an inner dialogue with myself to accomplish things but it definitely helped. However, its effects seem to be waning. I've read that you kind of hit plateaus on it. I think it's a temporary solution to a permanent problem. I think I may start vitamin D supplementation as well. I have definitely noticed that sunshine helps. Good thing I live in Louisiana now & not Michigan anymore. I am scared/wary of going off of my birth control but I am willing to consider it. I had issues with other types before but this one doesn't seem to affect me negatively. My periods are shorter & not super terrible. It's a lower dose birth control (Azurette).

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    Same here. It helped me over a rough patch, but I have no clue what it's like long term.
    In the book she makes it sound like it will stop working when your body makes a sufficient amount of neurotransmitter so you don't need to take it for forever. I like the idea of that.

    Do any of you guys take B vitamin complex? It's supposed to help with stress I think...
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    Quote Originally Posted by YogaBare View Post
    It sounds like your stress levels got upped when you started your MA, and maybe this gradually brought you to the edge and over? I think people who suffer from depression have a default stress setting which is higher than others. Any excess stress is much harder for us to cope with.
    Yes. This. I perform well under stress but at a high cost. Also, for example, certain situations will bring me absolutely down. They've usually had to do with ending a relationship. This last bout of severe depression was brought on by a guy.

    I can't really comment on the meds, since I've never been on them... I know they do work for some people, but idk... it always seems to be a temporary solution to get them out of a fix, you know? My recent experiences with docs has confirmed to me that most don't have a clue what they're doing.
    That's kind of what I'm going for. I was in a crisis when he prescribed it to me. Crisis is somewhat managed but I'm still pretty fragile. They might help until I can find more permanent solutions.

    In relation to getting hormones tested: it's not just sex hormones you could look at. There's things like thyroid function, serotonin, cortisol... all of which can contribute to feelings of depression. I know I'm kind of pushing the blood work, but I've just been plauged with depression for so many years (to the point of nearly taking my own life), and I know now that trying to fix it yourself is really, really hard. You need something concrete to work with. Hence, the bloods.

    Also, the pill can really fuck with the ol' hormones. Another reason to get it all checked out. If you're worried your doc won't give you the tests, just bamboozle her with a list of symptoms longer than her arm
    I already have that list prepared. I've had thyroid tested before I think & that's fine. The other ones I'd really like to know. I'm worried if I give her symptoms she'll want to send me to a specialist instead of doing the labs. *crosses fingers*

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    What hormones are you going to get checked? Would be worth getting thyroid checked again: even if your numbers are in the normal range they'll give you a more complete picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by firetiger View Post
    Yes. This. I perform well under stress but at a high cost. Also, for example, certain situations will bring me absolutely down. They've usually had to do with ending a relationship. This last bout of severe depression was brought on by a guy.
    Sigh. I *hear* you. Problems in love are a big trigger for many people. I had to avoid relationships too because I kept getting into destructive patterns. Which is a double-edged sword, because on one hand you can avoid some anguish, but on the other hand a person has needs (dammit! ).

    Therapy and self refection are good because you'll start to understand yourself, your fears, and how your subconscious processes shape your life, but ultimately i think meeting the right person comes down to having an open heart, full of love for yourself.

    Hugs to you!
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    I focused on the amino acids in The Mood Cure and skipped the vitamins. I know I have absorption problems, but I figure my diet is good enough. I take a B-complex once or twice a week, Vitamin D regularly, but that's about it aside from the 5-HTP every night. That made the biggest difference for me.

    I did take L-Tyrosine for a while and it seemed to help with anxiety, but I don't seem to need it much anymore. I've found that anxiety is the key for my anxiety/depression and the 5-HTP helps with that and getting enough sleep. My dreams are more vivid when I take it, but not as bad as when I was on SSRI's. I had nightmares all the time on Prozac, especially. These are just weird dreams, not scary.

    I got my hormones tested last year and found that my progesterone was low. When I took Vitex (to make my body produce more) for a few months, my PMS was entirely eliminated, but I didn't notice any overall change in moods.
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