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    The problem is that they still think they're doing what's best. They think people who eat like us are nuts, and they should keep dutifully eating mostly carbs, injecting the insulin, and just accept that their condition will decline until they get so sick they die.

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    I feel you all. My dad has type II diabetes and still eats donuts every morning for breakfast. He doesn't care; won't change anything. He'd rather take a pill & sit on the couch watching tv all day.

    My mom, on the other hand, has expressed interest in primal so I bought the book for her for Mother's Day in addition to a nice card, of course. I told her my dad can still have his meat and potatoes. She doesn't get that this is not about dieting: It's about living.
    Aren't we all just works in progress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firetiger View Post
    I feel you all. My dad has type II diabetes and still eats donuts every morning for breakfast. He doesn't care; won't change anything. He'd rather take a pill & sit on the couch watching tv all day.

    My mom, on the other hand, has expressed interest in primal so I bought the book for her for Mother's Day in addition to a nice card, of course. I told her my dad can still have his meat and potatoes. She doesn't get that this is not about dieting: It's about living.
    Living to a healthy old age at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    The problem is that they still think they're doing what's best. They think people who eat like us are nuts, and they should keep dutifully eating mostly carbs, injecting the insulin, and just accept that their condition will decline until they get so sick they die.
    Oh yeah. I'm definitely the crazy one in his mind, no doubt about that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumroll View Post
    Silvergirl, what I have learned is that he's NOT interested. Not at all. He thinks it is pretty much a bunch of "bunk scientific quackery."
    Yup, I get it that is where I mentioned that it is really hard to sit it out and say nothing, just lead by example. All you can do, but soooooooo frustrating. I have seen lots of different reactions to the diet, as I am sure you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvergirl View Post
    RitaRose..... why do you think that Paleo would fix your Mums ulcer? It has actually really exacerbated mine, so much so I think I will have to go to see a specialist again.
    If you could see her fridge, it's just a chemical shitstorm. Really awful stuff. She eats pretty much an all carb diet, including lots of whole grains for fiber. Argh!

    The problem is that she eats terrible food that's barely digestible, then that causes problems with bloating and acid reflux. From what I have seen growing up with her, I really think she has a major problem with grain intolerance, but she won't even see that as an possibility.

    The main problem I have with her isn't even really the food itself. She eats the supposed health food, she has acid reflux, then instead of changing what she eats so it doesn't happen, she just takes a Tums multiple times per day. At least she's off the PPI, but it means she's not only creating a never-ending cycle of acid reducing and then rebounding, but she's also creating the perfect environment for h. pylori to flourish. At the age of 77 and eating crap, her immune system isn't all it should be. Plus, she's a woman raised in a time when a proper woman didn't make a scene, so when a doctor tells her it's nothing, even if she feels like death warmed over, she just goes home and waits for it to go away. I have no clue how on earth she got a mouthy daughter like me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    The problem is that they still think they're doing what's best. They think people who eat like us are nuts, and they should keep dutifully eating mostly carbs, injecting the insulin, and just accept that their condition will decline until they get so sick they die.
    Yes!

    They don't think "What I'm being told doesn't work", they think "There must be something really wrong with me".

    A few months ago, my mom wanted me to chastise my brother for "eating too much meat". When I told her I was the LAST person that would be telling him that, she decided we were both nuts and going to keel over any minute. It didn't even bother her that I've been healthy this whole time (other than the head injury, which obviously wasn't diet related) and that my brother isn't having colitis issues anymore. Meanwhile, she's constantly having health problems, and she's at least 20 years younger than any of my grandparents were when they died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvergirl View Post
    Yup, I get it that is where I mentioned that it is really hard to sit it out and say nothing, just lead by example. All you can do, but soooooooo frustrating. I have seen lots of different reactions to the diet, as I am sure you have.
    Oh yeah, I have definitely noticed my share of odd looks when I tell people about how I eat. It's why I aimless and less inclined to share the info. Which is a shame because so many people could use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumroll View Post
    Oh yeah, I have definitely noticed my share of odd looks when I tell people about how I eat. It's why I aimless and less inclined to share the info. Which is a shame because so many people could use it.
    I very seldom divulge the true nature of my diet to people. When asked what I do to stay in shape I usually say "You know, low-fat and high fiber with lots of cardio". People accept that and give you a thumbs up.

    Or, if you want to be truthful, just say "I watch what I eat and I exercise" That way you're telling the truth and they can fill in the blanks with whatever makes them feel good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumroll View Post
    I suppose if you all have any ideas you can post 'me here, but I guess this is just another rant about family members who don't give a shit about their own health and how we always have to divorce ourselves from their own choices as ill conceived as they may be.
    I don't know if it's easier or harder when a family member is attempting to "eat healthy". My mom is deathly afraid of fat (except when she's indulging her sweet tooth, lol). She's a Type 2 diabetic who loves her "healthy whole grain" snacks. She's replaced 1% milk with an almond milk chemical brew that she thinks is better for her. The fact that I lost 70 lbs last year and never eat a "diet" food seems to have made no impression on her.

    Maybe it helps that I have a teenage daughter who is slowly considering how her food choices may impact her health. Doing whatever I can to help her avoid the mistakes I made is a million times more important to me than evangelizing my 75yo mother.

    But I feel your pain.
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