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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    It's not fructose. It's a byproduct of glycolysis.
    Glycolysis literally means "splitting sugars." See step 3.

    source:10 Steps of Glycolysis
    Yeah, I know, how does it make it "not fructose" again? To split a sugar, in this case, fructose, doesn't it have to be a sugar in the first place? Or are you saying this is created fructose from the body?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cori93437 View Post
    Once again... folks with normal brains, pretty much the lot of you, enjoy your sugars from whole natural foods. YUM.

    But, folks with brain issues, maybe consult an actual doctor (i.e. specialist in the field of your brain issue) and deal with your own particular situation via that route and some n=1!
    I personally can have some bad results from over consuming any sugars... be it glucose, fructose, or similarly acting alcohol.
    Exactly. One of the posters in my epilepsy thread has had two seizures recently both after an over indulgence in sweets. I had a pre-seizure aura a few nights ago after a drink and dessert indulgence added on to dinner.

    Derp, I know Peat thinks fructose is some kind of holy water but it's not. And F1,6BP is not fructose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    And F1,6BP is not fructose.
    Really? Because my high school biology textbook shows that fructose 1,6 bisphosphate is part of the d-fructose isomer family.

    Go ahead and read this:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._reactions.png

    It's one of the various metabolic pathways of fructose. After looking at that, go ahead and explain how it's not a possible derivative of ingesting fructose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpamix View Post
    Really? Because my high school biology textbook shows that fructose 1,6 bisphosphate is part of the d-fructose isomer family.
    My sister's husband's third cousin's father in law's daughter is a member of my family but that doesn't mean we are anything alike.

    Fructose like you get from eating fruit=/=F1,6 BP even though the F does stand for fructose. Chemically different beasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    My sister's husband's third cousin's father in law's daughter is a member of my family but that doesn't mean we are anything alike.

    Fructose like you get from eating fruit=/=F1,6 BP even though the F does stand for fructose. Chemically different beasts.
    How many different meanings do you think something as not vague as F1,6 BP do you think there are? I already told you what it is, what it does, showed you how it's made, how it's related to glycolysis; and even asked you to explain how it's created without fructose. Wtf is it even? Some mystery function created from nothing? It's just there, magically, in your body. Or is this something evil scientists created?

    Can't you just admit you're wrong? No one will think less of you, honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpamix View Post
    How many different meanings do you think something as not vague as F1,6 BP do you think there are? I already told you what it is, what it does, showed you how it's made, how it's related to glycolysis; and even asked you to explain how it's created without fructose. Wtf is it even? Some mystery function created from nothing? It's just there, magically, in your body. Or is this something evil scientists created?
    No, it's a byproduct of glycolysis. Not magic. But also not fructose.
    Derpy, it was an interesting article about an interesting substance that acts much in the same way as ketosis for neuroprotectivity but it was not about fructose from eating a piece of fruit. Sorry, you're beating dead horses here.

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    Maybe a picture will show it better
    File:Glycolysis2.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    4th molecule on the top pathway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omni View Post
    Maybe a picture will show it better
    File:Glycolysis2.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    4th molecule on the top pathway
    Thanks, Omni. That is the pictorial version of the 10 steps of glycolysis I posted upthread. Helpful to have both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    No, it's a byproduct of glycolysis. Not magic. But also not fructose.
    Derpy, it was an interesting article about an interesting substance that acts much in the same way as ketosis for neuroprotectivity but it was not about fructose from eating a piece of fruit. Sorry, you're beating dead horses here.
    Sigh. monosaccharides, like fructose, are converted to entry points of glycolysis through ingesting the substance.

    Glycolysis itself is just a metabolic pathway for conversion of glucose into pyruvate used in process of creating ATP.

    It's all here:

    File:Glycolysis2.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I guess all that was needed was to explain what glycolysis actually is to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpamix View Post
    Sigh. monosaccharides, like fructose, are converted to entry points of glycolysis through ingesting the substance.

    Glycolysis itself is just a metabolic pathway for conversion of glucose into pyruvate used in process of creating ATP.

    It's all here:

    File:Glycolysis2.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Yeah, Derp. Omni just posted that same file. Look up there^^^.

    Taking the chemical compound found in step three of the ten steps of glycolysis and isolating it and experimenting on rat brains with it is very interesting. But it has zero to do with ingesting fructose.

    Glycolysis starts with glucose, a different monosaccharide entirely.

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