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    Unhappy Daredevils and adrenaline junkies

    Are they suicidal? The only ones I know, personally, come from messed up family situations. And they are all boys/men. But none of the men in my extended family are daredevils. I hate the way adrenaline makes me feel, I'm an endorphin girl all the way. I suspect my life experience is limiting me.

    I started thinking about this because the older brother of one of DS's closest friends killed himself on his motorcycle last weekend. I say killed himself, because police estimate he was going 160mi/hr when he lost control and body slammed a pole. Of course his helmet didn't save him at the speed. He was 32, so not some moronic teenager, intoxicated by the hormones of puberty. Is the rush of going that fast worth it if you don't secretly wish you were dead?

    Maybe a primal forum isn't the best place to ask. I suspect men who fuss over their diets aren't generally daredevils either. I guess I'm just feeling really sad for his mother.
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    Scientists who have studied lifespan differences between men and women have found that the difference is male risk-taking behavior. I personally think it is a learned behavior. It runs in families that encourage their boys to "be boys". They grow up into men who drink a case of beer and jump off the roof for fun.

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    It has nothing to do with family, my mother didn't raise me to be a man of any sort, she didn't really raise me at all. I like to take risks because of boredom, I want to feel something, anything. I'm numb to the daily grind, and the only thing I can think about is circumstances and what would happen if I did something completely insane right now, where would it take me, how would it alter my life?

    Nothing real exciting has happen so far. I'm not stimulated by stupid shit like jumping off roofs, jumping out of a plane is another story though.

    I'm real sorry about the loss. He's at peace now though.
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    I think excessive risk taking is probably some kind of psychological condition. Maybe momma didn't love them enough or something. I'll bring in the somewhat tired point: would Grok think taking unnecessary risks is fun? I think he'd certainly take risks and love the feel of adrenaline, but I doubt he would've done the equivalent of 160 on a motorcycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiltondeportes View Post
    I think excessive risk taking is probably some kind of psychological condition. Maybe momma didn't love them enough or something. I'll bring in the somewhat tired point: would Grok think taking unnecessary risks is fun? I think he'd certainly take risks and love the feel of adrenaline, but I doubt he would've done the equivalent of 160 on a motorcycle.
    Tying bands of vegetation/vine ropes to your feet and jump a huge towers head down (a la bungee style), with the goal of your shoulders making contact with the ground but not enough to be injured, with the end result being possible death isn't risky enough for you? Weeeeeee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiltondeportes View Post
    I think excessive risk taking is probably some kind of psychological condition. Maybe momma didn't love them enough or something. I'll bring in the somewhat tired point: would Grok think taking unnecessary risks is fun? I think he'd certainly take risks and love the feel of adrenaline, but I doubt he would've done the equivalent of 160 on a motorcycle.
    She most certainly does love me, and I don't care what some arbitrary ideals of a perceived imaginary caveman thinks. Grok is us, and we are grok. In that case, there is grok in all of us, so yes, he would do something like that. Grok isn't some higher being, grok is human, with all our faults and imperfections. Which is why living up to a "caveman diet" is silly, because grok never had the choice, and if he did, he'd make all the same mistakes and keep making them as we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpamix View Post
    She most certainly does love me, and I don't care what some arbitrary ideals of a perceived imaginary caveman thinks. Grok is us, and we are grok. In that case, there is grok in all of us, so yes, he would do something like that. Grok isn't some higher being, grok is human, with all our faults and imperfections. Which is why living up to a "caveman diet" is silly, because grok never had the choice, and if he did, he'd make all the same mistakes and keep making them as we do.
    Save the mumbo jumbo because you're missing my point. If people went out and did stuff like the prehistoric equivalent of 160mph on a motorcycle, their risks would have resulted in lots of deaths. At the very least, lots of lost limbs or broken bones. Remember, prehistoric man didn't have the ER. I don't care how much grassfed meat you eat; it's not going to put pins in your compound fractured leg.

    This would lower the frequency of their genes in the gene pool over time. Basically, this is probably not a common thing for a human to "naturally" do. So if you're out doing stuff like that you're either A) a rare case that somehow got those risk taking genes B) not as healthy or happy as you could be.

    This concept doesn't take into account the possibility that "excessive risk taking" comes from a gene that controls both this negative trait AND a positive trait, thus making it more likely to stay in the gene pool. Genetics is quite tricky the more you study it.

    Using "grok" is the shorthand way of saying evolution of man. I don't see anything wrong with analyzing things through evolution. Do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiltondeportes View Post
    Save the mumbo jumbo because you're missing my point. If people went out and did stuff like the prehistoric equivalent of 160mph on a motorcycle, their risks would have resulted in lots of deaths. At the very least, lots of lost limbs or broken bones. Remember, prehistoric man didn't have the ER. I don't care how much grassfed meat you eat; it's not going to put pins in your compound fractured leg.

    This would lower the frequency of their genes in the gene pool over time. Basically, this is probably not a common thing for a human to "naturally" do. So if you're out doing stuff like that you're either A) a rare case that somehow got those risk taking genes B) not as healthy or happy as you could be.

    This concept doesn't take into account the possibility that "excessive risk taking" comes from a gene that controls both this negative trait AND a positive trait, thus making it more likely to stay in the gene pool. Genetics is quite tricky the more you study it.

    Using "grok" is the shorthand way of saying evolution of man. I don't see anything wrong with analyzing things through evolution. Do you?
    Conservation of self is a person's top priority, of course.

    No one is that healthy or happy anymore, stress exists and is unavoidable.

    Cavemen actively took risks daily, to hunt, gather, whatever. There was no shortage of stimulation back then. Just living required risk, I would imagine.

    I don't think a personality trait can be passed on through the gene pool, seems interesting though.

    In essence, this is what I was doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpamix View Post
    Conservation of self is a person's top priority, of course.

    No one is that healthy or happy anymore, stress exists and is unavoidable.

    Cavemen actively took risks daily, to hunt, gather, whatever. There was no shortage of stimulation back then. Just living required risk, I would imagine.

    I don't think a personality trait can be passed on through the gene pool, seems interesting though.

    In essence, this is what I was doing.
    Personality is linked to genetics. There was a great article in Time Magazine recently on that exact topic.

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    to bring out cliched words; a rush and exhilaration

    i saw a video of people swinging out, back and forth, over what looked like the grand canyon. if i'd been there i probably would have tried to have a turn too

    there's nothing wrong with a person for being a dare devil, they're having a good time
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