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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpamix View Post
    High PUFA fat intake is a good way to make a stressful state even more stressful.
    How much PUFA is there in leafy greens and fiberous vegetables?

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    Omni, what about PB's hero, "Bear" Owsley who was convinced that glycogen from fresh animals would knock you out of ketosis? Seems like almost all meat would have been eaten fresh, wonder what kind of carb load that would be.
    Don't know "Bear" Owsley but glycogen content of meat is only a couple of percent and if they chased the bugger for a while before killing it, it was probably near enough to nothing.

    There is the whole thing about boosting glycogen of commercial animals for slaughter to bulk up the meat akin to body building and also encourages lactic bacteria whose production of lactic acid prevent septic bacteria taking hold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omni View Post

    Don't know "Bear" Owsley but glycogen content of meat is only a couple of percent and if they chased the bugger for a while before killing it, it was probably near enough to nothing.

    There is the whole thing about boosting glycogen of commercial animals for slaughter to bulk up the meat akin to body building and also encourages lactic bacteria whose production of lactic acid prevent septic bacteria taking hold.
    Hmm, interesting thoughts. I would imagine that a big animal would carry quite a bit of glycogen in both liver and muscle, on the other hand there is only so much a person can eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omni View Post
    Don't know "Bear" Owsley but glycogen content of meat is only a couple of percent and if they chased the bugger for a while before killing it, it was probably near enough to nothing.
    Lol, Bear was the Dead's soundman and a prolific LSD maker. I never knew he was a VLC pioneer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omni View Post
    How much PUFA is there in leafy greens and fiberous vegetables?
    Enough, especially because they can be consumed in great quantities with ease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kegas76 View Post
    Lol, Bear was the Dead's soundman and a prolific LSD maker. I never knew he was a VLC pioneer.
    Supposedly over 40 years eating nothing but muscle meat. There is a crazy long thread at some VLC forums where he tells his story and answers questions. Interesting read for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victofgria View Post
    Battling Bipolar Disorder with nutritional ketosis!
    How you doing with that?
    Have you seen any significant improvements?
    I know the deal with epilepsy and now alzheimers and possibly parkinsons, just curious about other disease conditions, I know a few people with AI diseases, depression & MS,
    seems most of us have some degree of disease even if we aren't aware of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omni View Post
    How you doing with that?
    Have you seen any significant improvements?
    I know the deal with epilepsy and now alzheimers and possibly parkinsons, just curious about other disease conditions, I know a few people with AI diseases, depression & MS,
    seems most of us have some degree of disease even if we aren't aware of it.
    You responded to a spambot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpamix View Post
    You responded to a spambot
    Yeah, just realised when I saw the other threads, most of the time they only get 3 or 4 posts up.

    You don't suppose I might get an intelligent reply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omni View Post
    Yeah, just realised when I saw the other threads, most of the time they only get 3 or 4 posts up.

    You don't suppose I might get an intelligent reply?
    From the spambot? Likely not. I don't have any experience with bipolar disorder, so I don't have any knowledge about nutritional ketosis and its effects on it.

    Something to ask MarrisaLinnea(who the spambot stole that from) maybe
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    Thanks for the pointer, will do.

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