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    Question Is this diet complete? (Newbie)

    I was trying this new way of eating (and living and everything) and I was wondering if I was eating everything I could need, I'm 15 years old, so a restrictive diet is way more risky.

    Well, just tell me if I am missing something, thanks.

    Every day:
    2-3 rations of salad (with olive oil, lemon, crude onion, crude mushrooms and crude garlic)
    2 eggs (boiled)
    1-2 rations of almonds (without salt)
    2-3 rations of meat (grilled, mostly lean meat from cow, pig, chicken and turkey)
    1-2 rations of milk (cheese and sugar-free yoghurt included)
    ? rations of fish


    Am I missing something? Thanks
    Last edited by Miguelinileugim; 04-28-2013 at 10:40 AM.

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    I would say you dont have enough food volume. Pump up the amount and variety of veggies, I would increase your fat intake and depending on your body type and activity level you likely want more protein too.

    I eat 2 to 3 cups of veggies per meal either roasted, steamed, raw or fried in fat and coconut oil and spices. I am a big active adult male I eat about 200 g of protein a day if I can though sometimes I just can't eat that much.

    We would need more information about you to say better but I would suggest staying away from the nuts and too much dairy for a while as you adapt to this way of eating. It is really easy to overdo them both and have them take the place of more nutritious foods calorie for calorie.

    And if you can, read the book.

    Hope this helps.
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    Welcome, it's exciting that you are choosing to adopt a healthy lifestyle at your age.

    I think you have made a very good start, everything is wholesome and natural and good for you. The peanuts are not strictly primal (being legumes rather than true nuts) but I wouldn't worry about that. I give my 12yo peanut butter (only ingredients peanuts and sea salt) and it is fine for her, and even have a little myself.

    I agree you could do with more veges. Three salads a day is a lot of work to get down, maybe one salad and get your other veges in another form such as roasted pumpkin/sweet potato, butter carrots and broccoli, fried onions and mushrooms etc. Lots of colour and variety, added fat for flavour and nutrition. Green veges are great with butter and bacon.

    Your meat does not need to be lean, even if you are trying to lose weight, which you do not state. So you can choose fattier portions eg chicken with the skin on, streaky bacon, fatty beef etc. I don't know if you are grilling just because you are cooking for yourself, but it is very simple to do a one-dish oven bake with veges in the bottom, meat such as a fatty chicken thigh on top, herbs, spice cover and bake till cooked through.

    I think the nuts and dairy are fine and should remain in your plan, add them to your salads, incorporate them in meal recipes, eat as snacks and desserts etc etc.

    What I notice missing is fruit and berries. These can also be included as snacks, salad ingredients, or part of your meal, or dessert. They go well with yoghurt or cream.

    Also, remember this plan will build your health even if you are only faithful to it 80%, it is ok to go out with your friends for pizza or cake once in a while.

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    Thanks for your amazing replies! That's too much information to digest it at once, I'll organize it.


    "We would need more information about you to say better but I would suggest (...)"

    About my physical condition I don't do basically any sport, unless you count sprinting instead of walking (in high school) and thinking for hours and hours count as sports.

    However, I follow a polyphasic schedule, maybe you've heard of them, among other things it changes slightly what and when I can eat:

    (Mondays to Fridays) Segmented Sleep | Polyphasic Society
    (Weekends) Dual-Core Sleep | Polyphasic Society (The first one)


    "I would suggest staying away from the nuts and too much dairy for a while as you adapt to this way of eating"

    OK, less nuts and less dairy, but how much dairy is "too much"? (In glasses of whole milk)


    "And if you can, read the book."

    I'll start tomorrow!


    "The peanuts are not strictly primal"

    OK, what about walnuts instead of peanuts?


    "I agree you could do with more veges. Three salads a day is a lot of work to get down, maybe one salad and get your other veges in another form such as roasted pumpkin/sweet potato, butter carrots and broccoli, fried onions and mushrooms etc. Lots of colour and variety, added fat for flavour and nutrition. Green veges are great with butter and bacon"

    Well, I just get some already sliced vegetables, clean them and prepare the salad, 1-2 minutes of preparation. Didn't pumpkin and sweet potatoes and carrots contain sugars?

    (I'll add onions and mushrooms to my salads)


    "Your meat does not need to be lean, even if you are trying to lose weight, which you do not state. So you can choose fattier portions eg chicken with the skin on, streaky bacon, fatty beef etc. I don't know if you are grilling just because you are cooking for yourself, but it is very simple to do a one-dish oven bake with veges in the bottom, meat such as a fatty chicken thigh on top, herbs, spice cover and bake till cooked through."

    I don't want to lose weight, two years ago I was slightly overweight and now I'm very lean (due to metabolism not diet) so I'm not interested in losing weight.

    So, more fatty meat, OK


    "What I notice missing is fruit and berries. These can also be included as snacks, salad ingredients, or part of your meal, or dessert. They go well with yoghurt or cream."

    I can't find berries anywhere, didn't fruits contain fructose? Are they necessary?


    "Also, remember this plan will build your health even if you are only faithful to it 80%, it is ok to go out with your friends for pizza or cake once in a while."

    Yes, though I don't like pizza and cake too much and I don't have friends

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguelinileugim View Post
    Well, I just get some already sliced vegetables, clean them and prepare the salad, 1-2 minutes of preparation. Didn't pumpkin and sweet potatoes and carrots contain sugars?

    (I'll add onions and mushrooms to my salads)



    Yes, though I don't like pizza and cake too much and I don't have friends
    Re the veges, yes I grant you a salad simple to assemble. But it is hard work to eat, compared to a nice spoonful of mashed spiced and buttered kumara for example. Just adding raw onions and mushrooms to a salad will not do as much for your enjoyment of them as frying them up in butter and then adding your beaten eggs to make a mini omelette, as another example.

    Food is more than fuel, it is worth the preparation to create something delicious that we can sit down and really enjoy consuming, ideally with other people. If you learn to make a really delicious dish whatever it may be - butter chicken, pumpkin soup, cheesecake - then it can become your signature dish and you can become famous for it within your family.

    Re having no friends, this is a sad situation, it may take a long time to develop true friends but still you should make a point of doing something in company with other people, even just going somewhere that others also go to hang out for a bit. And if it ends up that someone gives you a piece of cake then just eat it, it won't ruin your diet and will help create connections with others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annieh View Post
    Re the veges, yes I grant you a salad simple to assemble. But it is hard work to eat, compared to a nice spoonful of mashed spiced and buttered kumara for example. Just adding raw onions and mushrooms to a salad will not do as much for your enjoyment of them as frying them up in butter and then adding your beaten eggs to make a mini omelette, as another example.
    So, you mean that instead of adding them to salad I could fry them in butter and... wait, frying things isn't unhealthy?


    Quote Originally Posted by Annieh View Post
    Food is more than fuel, it is worth the preparation to create something delicious that we can sit down and really enjoy consuming, ideally with other people. If you learn to make a really delicious dish whatever it may be - butter chicken, pumpkin soup, cheesecake - then it can become your signature dish and you can become famous for it within your family.
    Interesting...


    Quote Originally Posted by Annieh View Post
    Re having no friends, this is a sad situation, it may take a long time to develop true friends but still you should make a point of doing something in company with other people, even just going somewhere that others also go to hang out for a bit. And if it ends up that someone gives you a piece of cake then just eat it, it won't ruin your diet and will help create connections with others.
    Well, most non-introverted people see this situation as sad, personally I'm perfectly fine, I enjoy isolation and I have a lot of things to do in my free time, like thinking, reading, writing and improving my lifestyle. I don't even know what is exactly "friendship".
    Last edited by Miguelinileugim; 04-28-2013 at 08:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguelinileugim View Post


    Well, most non-introverted people see this situation as sad, personally I'm perfectly fine, I enjoy loneliness and I have a lot of things to do in my free time, like thinking, reading, writing and improving my lifestyle. I don't even know what is exactly "friendship".
    I believe what you mean is that you enjoy being alone.
    Being alone and being lonely are two very different things.
    I agree that one can actually be quite happy mostly alone. I too am not all that gregarious an individual.
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    Yes, berries and fruit do contain sugars, but they are also high in anti oxidants (blackberries, blueberries). Citrus has vitamin C, just don't overdo them. Small doses = necessary antiox's, high doses = too much fructose! The whole moderation thing works well with organic, natural foods.. Just keep away from processed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alyx727 View Post
    Yes, berries and fruit do contain sugars, but they are also high in anti oxidants (blackberries, blueberries). Citrus has vitamin C, just don't overdo them. Small doses = necessary antiox's, high doses = too much fructose! The whole moderation thing works well with organic, natural foods.. Just keep away from processed.
    I can't find berries anywhere, and about citrus, how much is too much? I usually eat 1 lemon a day, is that too much or not enough?

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    Long as your eating meat and organs it will be complete. Everything else is just icing on the cake.

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