A tip of the hat to Mr. Anthony's great feedback. You look great in your recent photo. Although 3 weeks is a short period of time, it seems like there really weren't any noticeable changes to an already very good physique, according to your report, no apparent muscle or strength gains and no discernible body fat loss. So it was basically a wash when compared to following a Primal plan. It would be interesting to find out what your net daily calories were as an average over the 3 weeks. I'm wondering if the high fat approach will work for everyone looking to get very defined. Perhaps once you reach a certain body fat % set point there is some process we are unaware of that prevents our bodies from going lower when eating a high fat diet. In my case my set point seems to be about 12% which has been my Paleo/Primal low point so far, I crept up to 13.8% as I had relaxed my macro focus and ate a few more carbs (going from 75 to 100 gms. per day to 100 to 150 per day) and then returned to around 12% during my steak and eggs trial, good but I was expecting better. Perhaps a high protein, low fat, moderate carb approach or just high protein for a week would be required. One thing I was impressed with was my strength and muscle mass gains (gained 7 lbs. of lean mass and dropped 2 lbs. of fat), something I was not expecting.
Last edited by canuck416; 05-29-2013 at 03:08 PM.
For what it's worth, I noticed no real difference when I did the potato hack last year, either. My body seems to have a pretty solid bodyfat set point on Primal, and it really feels like it upregulates or downregulates everything to keep me looking the same no matter how much or how little primal food I cram into my face. I think for me to get into the 7% or so range I'd have to do something pretty extreme, but I have no idea what that would be. I'm always open to experimenting on myself, though, so if anyone has ideas I'll give them a shot. I don't mind being the forum guinea pig.
I'd like to try S&E again but track everything to see if I can get a little more scientific. I just hate tracking calories and stuff and never do it, so that would be the biggest challenge. It was a fun challenge though.
Been following this with interest, as well as reading a lot about Carb Nite. Only real difference is that the refeed window is after 4pm and ideally very high GI foods to start with. And he reckons that once you get BF <= 10% or so , you need an extra refeed ow due to reduced lepton levels at lower body fat %. Might start a carb nite experiment to see what happens.
If you watch the video Canuck linked back on page 45 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO0SCHTin9Q) it sounds like they ate whatever was cheap.
I think the real question would be what was the common meat in the late 60's early 70's. I would think more meat would be sourced from So Cal and Nevada ranches not CAFO farms.
One surprising outcome of Paleo for me is that I do not need salt on eggs and most meat. However, did you use salted butter?I don't think I need to salt everything as much as I did. I was adding salt every meal, but I doubt that's necessary if you're already fat-adapted like I am.
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