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    A lot of women are also intimidated when it comes to lifting. I know most of the girls I see in the gym only lift light weights (5 to lbs). I can't say for sure if they do that because they can't lift heavier or they will think they will get huge. I also know that most women do not like the muscular look. This is what they think will happen when they start lifting heavy.
    For an overall health, it is best that people do what they can stick with or enjoy. For myself, I enjoy lifting heavy and doing HIIT but I would say that most of my friends would rather do yoga or Zumba. It is really difficult to change someone's attitude about exercise to the point it isn't even worth to talk about it.

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    Are we talking about looks or performance? Looks are subjective, performance is not. Personally (I'm a guy), I find athletic looking (this means with actual muscle on their bones) women the most attractive. A woman that does full squats will almost always have the better butt vs one that doesn't. Of course, that's just my take on it.

    I really wish people stopped having this obsession with low body fat and little else. "Oh my God, he's so sexy, look at those abs!" ... Yeah, and is this guy strong and healthy too?

    The worst is runway models. Skin wrapped around a skeleton who is terrified of eating a decent meal. Sexy...

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    The worst is runway models. Skin wrapped around a skeleton who is terrified of eating a decent meal. Sexy...
    I LOVE guys like you that like women who look like they eat and work out. That actually like to see a woman with an ass. And enjoying food. Will you please go tell all your girlfriends what you told us? And if you want children.... your wife actually needs to have some body fat. And eat food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnolia1973 View Post
    I LOVE guys like you that like women who look like they eat and work out. That actually like to see a woman with an ass. And enjoying food. Will you please go tell all your girlfriends what you told us? And if you want children.... your wife actually needs to have some body fat. And eat food.
    While there are plenty of guys out there who like strong women or women with a little padding, there are also a lot of men who prefer women who are fashionably thin (size 0-2). My ex-husband was one of them. He thought I (at 5'4") should weigh less than 100 pounds, and should simply stop eating until I reached that weight. He believed that the way for a woman to determine her ideal body weight is for her to begin losing weight until she has lost her health, then put back on exactly one pound. He nagged me constantly to stop eating, because I "didn't need to eat". I wasn't a size 0-2, you see.

    I got eating disorders out of that marriage.

    The fact is that women in general have had no luck losing weight. But unless they lose fat, gaining muscle will make them look bulkier. And they're not ready to accept that healthy food and intermittent fasting will do things for them that CW never did.

    It's like, it's not working, but better stay the course. Just try harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quikky View Post
    Are we talking about looks or performance? Looks are subjective, performance is not. Personally (I'm a guy), I find athletic looking (this means with actual muscle on their bones) women the most attractive. A woman that does full squats will almost always have the better butt vs one that doesn't. Of course, that's just my take on it.
    I think for a large percentage of women looks trumps performance. Most women (and some men) aren't really that interested in lifting 2x their bodyweight, or meeting whatever other metrics of strength you can name. They just want to be skinny, with maybe some hint of muscle peeking through. They in fact don't want to look like a top crossfitter, because they do not want that type of musculature. They want to look more like Jennifer Aniston or Gwenyth Paltrow, both of whom are over 40 and still rocking the bikinis.They look the way they do because of an intense focus on diet, combined with cardio and light weights, at least if you believe what the press says.

    I don't judge anyone's fitness goals- I will confess that I have my days where I just want to look skinny and "toned" also. I stick with crossfit because I can see the measurable changes in my strength, and I find that motivating. But to be honest, I'm still carrying around more fat, especially on my bum and thighs, than I would like. And yes, I do eat primally. It is tough to think that to really get where I want to be, I will probably have to pay super close attention to my diet, to calories in, to macros... it is tough and demotivating. I just want to do activities I enjoy, eat food I like, and look amazing- is that too much to ask?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    While there are plenty of guys out there who like strong women or women with a little padding, there are also a lot of men who prefer women who are fashionably thin (size 0-2). My ex-husband was one of them. He thought I (at 5'4") should weigh less than 100 pounds, and should simply stop eating until I reached that weight. He believed that the way for a woman to determine her ideal body weight is for her to begin losing weight until she has lost her health, then put back on exactly one pound. He nagged me constantly to stop eating, because I "didn't need to eat". I wasn't a size 0-2, you see.
    This! While there are lots of men who like the strong and built female body, there are maybe even more who like the itty-bitty teeny-tiny look. I see girls so tiny I don't even know how they stay upright against a strong breeze, and a line of guys salivating over them. And while I know some are naturally that small, I know that others are using unhealthy means to look that way, and it is dispiriting. And it isn't just high fashion that perpetuates this. Look at porn. Most of those women are incredibly small (albeit often enhanced up top). And a lot of them are using unhealthy means to stay so tiny and "desirable".

    BTW, good for you, eKatherine, for making him an EX-husband. What a tool.

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    It's easier to find a new man than starve yourself. Totally fucking stupid. And I have no idea why we are all convinced that men only like size 0's when it is not the case. It's probably because they are insecure.

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    Are we talking about looks or performance? Looks are subjective, performance is not. Personally (I'm a guy), I find athletic looking (this means with actual muscle on their bones) women the most attractive. A woman that does full squats will almost always have the better butt vs one that doesn't. Of course, that's just my take on it.
    Athletic look requires the same or lower BF% as the runway model. It is far harder to achieve because you have to train on cross-purposes - for gaining muscle and losing body fat. While men have larger muscle and naturally lower body fat, women have smaller muscle and higher body fat. So, an athletic body, i.e. a body with visible muscle, and no jiggle and bulges, firm, is very hard to achieve for a woman.

    It's a fallacy to think that there is on one hand a healthy athletic goddess, and on another - a starved waif with no muscle. They both will need 15% BF or less, and both will be more or less starved depending on their natural appetite level.

    Maybe if you are 16, and have never been over 18 BMI you can get a body with no bulges and eating three meals a day, but I doubt it can be achieved without starving later in life. What is considered a normal amount of body fat (22+%) doesn't look athletic or fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    With a name like Sean I'm guessing his female friends do not consider his results relevant.
    More fool them.

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    Looked at the Nerd Fitness link. Pretty impressive. But I think it only worked for Staci because she already lost all that excess weight by doing chronic cardio and dieting. Then, at a low weight of 117 lbs, she started lifting heavy and eating to gain muscle and strength. If you start out with a few pounds to lose, I doubt that just lifting heavy and eating a ton will cause you to look like her. Or will it?

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