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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontwisst View Post
    I'm not using any BC right now, but most recently (stopped to try and troubleshoot some other health issues) I was using an oral option called Centchroman (or Saheli) that's not hormonal (as in no synthetic hormones)...but also not available by prescription as a contraceptive in North America. The drug itself (ormeloxifene) is approved for use here, just to treat other things.
    I found out about it on Aphrodite women's health forum while looking for options to hormones after going nearly insane being on Yaz. I had been on it for about three years until I stopped this January and am impatiently awaiting the go-ahead from my internal specialist to get back on it...it's really that good. No PMS, no acne issues, no cramps, no weight gain, easier periods. I've noticed a significant difference just having been off it three months.
    After the first three months taking the pill at a twice-weekly dosage, it's one pill a week and the best part is how cheap it is - an 8 pill pack costs $0.85 or some ridiculous thing like that. Even with extra shipping (I have to have a PO box in the US, have it sent there, then forwarded here to Canada since the supplier won't ship here), a year and a half worth costs like $25.
    Sort of off topic, I know, but I looked long and hard at getting a copper IUD when I had to stop the pill (Mirena not an option, progestin-only makes me go batshit nuts), but the negatives I've read about have me convinced this pill is still my best option.

    Thank you for telling about this pill! I have been looking for a good and safe contraceptive which doesn't contain hormones or affect the body negatively in other ways. This pill really catches my interest, sounds so good! Acctually sounds TO good to be truth. Feels like it just have to be some disadvantages with it. It doesn't contain any hormones, but is makes the estrogen in the body to decrease, right? Isn't it possible then that it makes the breast shrink for example? Just feels so reasonable that some disadvantages comes with it! Haven't you experienced anything more bad with it?

    Where did you get it? I live in Sweden, do you think I can order it somewhere on an american or european site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tovek View Post
    Thank you for telling about this pill! I have been looking for a good and safe contraceptive which doesn't contain hormones or affect the body negatively in other ways. This pill really catches my interest, sounds so good! Acctually sounds TO good to be truth. Feels like it just have to be some disadvantages with it. It doesn't contain any hormones, but is makes the estrogen in the body to decrease, right? Isn't it possible then that it makes the breast shrink for example? Just feels so reasonable that some disadvantages comes with it! Haven't you experienced anything more bad with it?

    Where did you get it? I live in Sweden, do you think I can order it somewhere on an american or european site?

    Best,

    Tove
    Hi Tove,

    Your best bet for more info would be to read through the many posts on the Centchroman forum on the Aphrodite Women's Health forum - you'll find it in the 'Contraception' forum.

    My understanding of how it works is that it binds to estrogen receptors in the reproductive organs and throws the timing of the monthly cycle out of whack. You still ovulate, uterine lining still thickens, everything happens as it should, it's just that it happens a few days before or after when it normally would which prevents implantation of a fertilized egg, should that egg be fertilized.

    I have never noticed any breast shrinkage with it, but your experience may differ. The only disadvantage I noticed when I first started taking it was that some of my cycles were really long, like 50 days.

    It's manufactured by a company called Hindustan Latex in India, so the only website I know of to order it from is alldaychemist.com. You'd have to check and see if they are able to ship it to Sweden.

    Hope this helps!

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    we use a combination of fertility charting and barriers.

    i am looking into the copper IUD, but my husband is against it. He's against chemical birth control and also the IUDs because he feels that putting strange objects into my body to prevent preganncy is probably a bad idea. He much prefers the diaphragm or condom route, and in his mind, the condom route is the best because it's so simple.

    he's funny like that. I have a preference to go without condoms or something in the vagina -- I'd like to try the IUD. we shall see.

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    Zoebird, your husband is cool. My motto: If you don't wrap it, you don't get in. It's been serving me well since before some posters were born. I will admit that now that I'm older, I'll accept two blood tests as a replacement for a condom, but when I was worried about an unwanted pregnancy, it was use a rubber or be gone.
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    You can try it. Some people have no problems with it whatsoever. I ended up having mine taken out because I thought it was making me gain weight, but I think I was wrong about that. I was just unfairly blaming the IUD.

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    Re centchroman/ormeloxifene...

    I just looked this up on the Wikipedia, and way at the bottom under "external links" are links to Indian government sites in English. The failure rate is 1 to 2%, according to my reading, and children thus born hit their milestones.

    I have never had probs with the Pill, in fact I took it as relief from crazy debilitating cramps that happened when I just let my body do its thing, but this is really interesting! I am going to ask my gyno about this, even if I do not need it (hubby got the snip after our four kids) - perhaps one of my daughters will! (All my kids are girls)
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    For anyone with an IUD, what's insurance coverage like for one? I don't know if I'll ever get one, the risk of heavier periods is not something I'm keen on, but cost is a major concern for me.
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    depends upon the insurance. they are covered for residents here in NZ -- but for non-residents is costs $92 to put in (includes two appointments -- one to make sure that you are a good candidate, and one to put it in).

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    Quote Originally Posted by namelesswonder View Post
    For anyone with an IUD, what's insurance coverage like for one? I don't know if I'll ever get one, the risk of heavier periods is not something I'm keen on, but cost is a major concern for me.
    I had the Mirena put in a couple of years ago, I was on pretty decent employer-sponsored insurance at the time and had zero co-pay. However I was told that the cost of device and insertion without insurance would be in the $1000 range. I was not a fan of the Mirena at all, had it removed within a couple months. FWIW the Mirena is supposed to lighten or even stop your periods altogether after a while, because it is still a hormonal BC. Other thing to be prepared for is insertion is wickedly painful, particularly if you have not had children.

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