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    Available Blood Tests in UK

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    I have been reading the 90-Day Journal (n=1) and wonder if anyone in the UK has had Blood Work done? If so was it on the NHS? If not, was it private? And what was the cost?

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    Not sure which tests are specified, but someone I follow on twitter had this done City Assays Vitamin D Blood Spot Test and was happy with the experience.

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    The book lists a whole heap of tests that mean nothing to me, but aware that in countries in US. You pay for these types of tests for cholesterol, t-cell counts etc. Short of going private , I wasn't sure wether I cold just go to GP and ask for them to be done?


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    I reckon my GP would laugh me out of the surgery!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strong_as_Oak View Post
    The book lists a whole heap of tests that mean nothing to me, but aware that in countries in US. You pay for these types of tests for cholesterol, t-cell counts etc. Short of going private , I wasn't sure wether I cold just go to GP and ask for them to be done?
    I've had the Vitamin D test from Birmingham City Hospital done that upupandaway mentioned. It's cheap, and the turnaround is fast.

    Your GP would have quite a battery of tests he could call on. So if someone goes in complaining of symptoms that might point more than one way, or maybe just of tiredness or something like that, the GP might well have blood samples taken and have quite a list run. They'd probably do blood glucose levels, c-reactive protein, and so on. Over here they tend not to share that data, though. Maybe in the U.S. since the patient is a customer and pays for it they hand over the figures to give a kind of tangible proof of what they've done for the money! Or maybe not: I don't know.

    But in the UK your doctor is likely to make up his or her own mind on the basis of the figures and tell you his or her conclusions as to treatment, but not share the data, which you're assumed not to understand.

    But I guess if you said you'd like a copy of the print-out most doctors are not going to refuse you. However, they'd probably only run the tests if they believed there was a medical need for it -- if you were complaining of particular symptoms and they were trying to get to the bottom of that.

    It seems to me that at bottom what we probably have is a different conception of healthcare. In the US they see themselves as employing the doctor; in the UK, you go to him cap in hand. That's partly a post-war thing:

    National Health Service Act 1946 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    You have to see it in context. Britain pretty much broke itself and gave up its empire to resist Hitler alone (till the US and USSR came in). After the war, it tried to rebuild its shattered civil society using state power. (If you're interested in history and culture, note also that the parish organisations of the Church of England, which had just about survived WWI, got broken by WWII, and the Church willingly surrendered its social role to the State post-war ... which is probably why "religion" has faded out of British life, while it remains a factor in American life.)

    Anyway, the thing is this: in Britain you don't pay for healthcare (at the point of delivery) but you get what you're given. that's the paradox of a "socialistic" system -- that they take a "lordly" attitude to you, as Oakeshott would have said:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rationalism-...dp/0865970955/

    But ... lest you get too envious ... US healthcare, as far as I understand it, is led by the nose by the big pharmaceutical companies. (So is ours to some extent, but theirs seems to be even more.) Not that American doctors are willing accomplices but that they're effectively the most intensively advertised people on the planet and simply don't realize:

    Underground Wellness - Pharmageddon: How Big Pharma Hijacked Healthcare - May 30,2012 | Mixcloud

    I've gone all round the houses ... you could ask your GP whether he or she would run some tests on you and give you the results, so that you could have an idea of what your health was like and what you might need to do. I don't know what response you might get, but, hey, they can only say "no" and it only takes a little courage to ask ...

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    If you're seen as healthy, then it might be hard to persuade your GP to give you 'unnecessary' blood tests, however, I get my cholesterol, vitamin d levels etc checked regularly due to underactive thyroid. No idea how much it is to go private!

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    It depends on your doctor and the clinic! The blood tests are free, but some doctors seem to take personal account with saving the NHS money...

    First just ask if you can have full bloodwork done and see what they say. Do you have any "symptoms" you could use as leverage? If not, you can pretend Or say you have family history of heart disease / diabetes / thyroid conditions.
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