Is it possible that some of us are doomed to be fat forever? page

[rphlslv]

I'm talking about stubborn fat. "Those last 5-10 pounds". I have been stuck with them for one whole damn year!!! And I am noticing that I'm not the only one in the forum. I am getting sick of this! Low carb, zero carb, carnivore, HIIT, strength training, IF every single day, nothing makes it go away.

[Stabby]

Have you tried no carb no more than 15% protein and less than 4% PUFAs yet? Omega 6 causes leptin resistance, heightened cortisol, inflammation, etc which is why a lot of people find nuts to be fattening disproportionately to their total calories.

Essentially that would mean grass fed beef, coconut oil, erm, yeah that's about it! i think supplements would be needed.


Other than that I got nothing. Sounds frustrating!

[rphlslv]

This is all I have been eating for the past few months with no results:

Eggs, beef, chicken, butter, olive oil, cheese (gave it up a week ago)

Does that sound like too much PUFA's? I don't eat nuts at all. I also take 5-10 grams of fish oil daily.

Do you think maybe a carb "cheat" here and there would do the trick for this leptin thing? Or just straight zero carb?

edit: as for my protein intake, it's always between 25-30% of calories.

[Stabby]

Eggs have quite a bit, chicken has a lot, olive oil has about as much as eggs. Good stuff with the fish oil although I suspect that leptin gets messed with even if you have adequate omega 3, though that tends to mitigate a lot of potential inflammation and it most definitely a good move for overall health.

With regards to carb cheats, I've heard they help and I have seen a study where people people stalled on low carb started eating some more carbs in the morning and lost weight so it's possible.

[Stabby]

And you could try switching out the butter for coconut oil. I don't know if it would help but butter gives me acne because of my casein intolerance. That could mean some inflammation, leptin suppression, cortisol, etc.

[rphlslv]

I eat 12 eggs a day and that's only 8 grams of PUFA's... I don't know if that's a lot.

I'll try having some carbs this weekend and see how that goes. Although I did try this in the past... however it was a whopping ~500 grams of carbs every Sunday (back when I was training for powerlifting). That didn't help much in terms of weight loss.

[Stabby]

That's a lot for me. I try to keep my omega 6 to about 8g a day, not to use the Grok crutch but he wasn't eating very much omega 6 and his ratio was 1:1. I can't really say what daily requirement is but whatever it is I think that optimal health to the point of being sickeningly obsessive would be within a couple of grams of it. it certainly has no utility in excess of the basic requirements like saturated and monounsaturated fat do. Excess omega 6 generally doesn't get used for anything good but gets stored away in the tissues and turned into excess pro-inflammatory eicosanoids. Linoleic acid is the worst but I think too much arachidonic acid from eggs and chicken and the like is bad too.

The carb thing could be a good idea or a really bad one. No comment on that.

[rphlslv]

But to answer my first question, is it possible that I am doomed to be like this forever? I feel like I should just quit trying to lose weight and focus more on strength training, because they're conflicting goals.

[marcadav]

I wonder, for me, if it has to do with being late stage peri-menopausal. The remainder of my obvious fat is in my lower abdomen-- the place where estrogen producing fat is stored.

[jo]

But to answer my first question, is it possible that I am doomed to be like this forever? I feel like I should just quit trying to lose weight and focus more on strength training, because they're conflicting goals.

I think that is distinctly possible. Why worry about being 5 lbs overweight? It does not affect your health and you are slimmer than most other people. I would suggest that you focus on lifestyle goals generally and forget about the weight. Generally that would include getting good sleep, eating a good diet and exercising. Your body may be one the responds better to strength training. I suspect the weight will edge off slowly if you stop watching it! You will certainly be happier if you set some new goals.