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    Why does binge-eating fruit trigger an "EAT MOAR SUGAR" mentality?

    I'm an 18-year-old college student and I've found that my go-to coping mechanism is to EAT. (I've fallen culprit to the Freshman 15, since starting school in October...) I don't go for the worst offender (wheat), but I find that my first "weakness" is multiple pieces of fruit for every meal. It's not uncommon for me to eat 4 freakin' whole oranges after dinner, plus a Larabar (or 2). I understand that binge-eating fruit and "gluten-free" bars (brown rice syrup-laden, ugh!) isn't the worst thing that I could do, but it's making me gain weight on top of the gargantuan amount I've already gained since starting school.

    This problem wasn't severe in high school. I've found that the freedom of college life is conducive to boredom eating/compulsive eating.

    Should I try doing a sugar detox? Does this sound like an addiction to fruit/"healthy" bars? Should I force myself to do a very low-carb (meat, veg, water, no caffeine/sugar) deal for a week? For those who have overcome something like this, do you have some tricks up your sleeve? I'm wondering if I should seek help.

    I'm about 30 lbs overweight. I'm otherwise a very happy person, but on the inside I know something is wrong with me.

    Thanks so much, Primal veterans! I admire you all for committing to this (matchless) lifestyle.

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    You don't need a detox, you need to consciously not put the food in your face hole. Nothing is wrong with you other than your lack of self-control (tough love, kid)

    Don't eat the fruit. Finish your meal and learn to be satisfied with the nutrients you just took in.

    And there are complex physiological processes explaining why we get hungry after binge eating, but no need to go into them really. All you need to do is teach yourself some self-control. It's easier than it seems. (I've been in your position- I'm a fourth year college student myself.)
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    @ bdilla: I KNOW you're right. It's really all about self control and forcing yourself to focus on your work instead of going on some wild fruit chase in the convenience store.

    I've heard that L-Glutamine and Chromium Picolinate are helpful at curbing sugar cravings, but I don't know if I need them.

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    You may want to do a forum search for leptin reset - this hormone plays a significant role in appetite and glycolytic/fatty acid metabolism. I'd also suggest that, for a few weeks, you try doing VLC every day, until your bodies' systems adjust to the shift to having more ketone bodies than glucose available for energy use.
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    Sugar, is sugar, is sugar.

    Whether it is bound up with healthy nutrients or taken plain (table sugar, et all.) it still has the same effect on your body. Some people tolerate it better than others do.

    Self-control is a major part of it as many will tell you. Or, alternatively, you can do what a lot of people do which is simply avoid it (yes even from fruit) if it causes binges to avoid these issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumroll View Post
    Sugar, is sugar, is sugar.
    this.
    As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

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    Uhhh, i highly doubt its the fruit making you fat. You drink? What else you eat besides fruit and larabars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    Uhhh, i highly doubt its the fruit making you fat. You drink? What else you eat besides fruit and larabars?
    I don't drink. At all. These are my meals for the day, for the most part (I eat all 3 in the dining hall - mandatory meal plan):
    B: 3 hardboiled eggs, 3-4 turkey sausage links
    L: Green salad w/ cherry tomatoes, 1-2 pieces chicken breast/beef patties, maybe a hardboiled egg.
    D: Similar to lunch, maybe a steamed veggie entree

    I have fruit with every meal, usually, especially at dinner.

    Because of the meal plan, I'm sure I'm downing some bad oils, the meat isn't grass-fed or top quality, and there are aren't many sources of good fats. But I make do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcby9 View Post
    I don't drink. At all. These are my meals for the day, for the most part (I eat all 3 in the dining hall - mandatory meal plan):
    B: 3 hardboiled eggs, 3-4 turkey sausage links
    L: Green salad w/ cherry tomatoes, 1-2 pieces chicken breast/beef patties, maybe a hardboiled egg.
    D: Similar to lunch, maybe a steamed veggie entree

    I have fruit with every meal, usually, especially at dinner.

    Because of the meal plan, I'm sure I'm downing some bad oils, the meat isn't grass-fed or top quality, and there are aren't many sources of good fats. But I make do!
    your meals sound like the end-result is very lean. you might be binging on sugar because you actually need protein and fat. stop being phobic about real food.


    gaaah,that turkey sausage is a crime against humanity.
    As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

    Ernest Hemingway

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodletoy View Post
    this.
    Agreed!

    Some people have no problem with fruit, but for some people it can trigger binges just as candy and french fries can.

    This is true for me. I have to be very careful with fruit, and make sure to eat it in controlled amounts, and stop my self from polishing off the whole bag of cherries or eating 3 bowls of strawberries (no, I don't add any table sugar to sweeten).
    That's not to say fruit isn't healthy. It is, but it's pretty much standard for people to always put fruit and vegetables together: "Eat your fruit and veg", "A healthy diet is low in fat and includes lot of fruit and vegetables", "Americans don't eat enough fruit and vegetables.", "The government recommends a minimum of 5 servings of fruit and vegetables per day"
    It's almost like in our vocabulary it's one word, rather than two/three.

    Well they should really not be put together, because they aren't equal. Most non-starchy vegetables like lettuce, broccoli, can pretty much be eaten in unlimited amounts because they're low sugar, fat, and calories.
    Fruit not as much. Yes, fruit is low in fat and has less sugar and calories than say chocolate, but many fruits (with the exception of things like avocado and tomatoes) are still high sugar foods.
    And, yes, for many people sugar, even naturally occurring, unrefined sugar, can trigger binges.

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