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    Quote Originally Posted by s-piper View Post
    Same reason a GP would, I guess.
    He might also feel it's not totally outside this area of expertise because cardiovascular disease does correlate with IR.
    Yes, GPs tend to have an entirely reflexive knee-jerk of the "Your LDL is greater than zero? STATINS!" kind. But even then, prescribing statins to a mid-20s women is unusual, I'd say.

    As to what he might feel, that feeling is wrong. He is NOT a specialist in everything that might be correlated with hormonal shifts (which is pretty much every disease).

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    You don't need to get buy-in from a doctor. Lots of people just ignore the prescription. And they don't tell the whole truth about their diet. ("I eat lots of whole, natural foods...")
    That'd be an interesting experiment. Go to a new doctor and describe my diet this way: "I eat lots of green vegetables including seaweed like nori and kelp noodles, carrots, other root vegetables, and avacado. For protein, I eat grass-fed meat when I can afford it, chicken, fish and eggs. I also eat mushrooms, berries, and seasonal fruit. I do eat cheese and nuts by I try not to over do it. I avoid sugar, processed foods, corn oil and soybean oil."

    I wonder if they'd say that sounded so bad, or even pick up on the lack of grain and legumes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumifer View Post
    Yes, GPs tend to have an entirely reflexive knee-jerk of the "Your LDL is greater than zero? STATINS!" kind. But even then, prescribing statins to a mid-20s women is unusual, I'd say.
    Unless she's a fat-ass with high LDL.

    Oh well, hopefully Primal with change one, if not both, of those things. I have lost some weight already. Most of it was in my pants size, but not on the scale though so the difference between now and 4 months ago was only about 5 lbs.
    At least I know it happened, and weightloss you feel in your clothes is a better indicator than the scale anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s-piper View Post
    Unless she's a fat-ass with high LDL.
    Not even then.

    In your place I'd worry about diabetes more than about CVD and statins are singularly unhelpful here (see e.g. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/op...sers.html?_r=1). Besides, let me repeat, statins have shown ZERO usefulness for women without CVD, and yes, that includes fat asses and high LDL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumifer View Post
    Not even then.

    In your place I'd worry about diabetes more than about CVD and statins are singularly unhelpful here. Besides, let me repeat, statins have shown ZERO usefulness for women without CVD, and yes, that includes fat asses and high LDL.
    If only more doctors felt that way.

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    I've been fending off statins since I was 20-something years old. I'm almost 50 now and continue to fend off my doctor's threats to put me on statins. So far he's gone with my wishes. Just tell him you think you want to fix it with diet.
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    Okay my test results came in today. Come to find out they did not test any inflammatory markers what-so-ever! *sigh*

    Cholesterol-228
    HDL-34
    non-HDL-194
    Chol/HDL ratio-6.7
    LDL calculated-168
    triglycerides-128

    Other:
    TSH-3.20
    T4, Free-1.2
    Testosterone-60.0 (didn't even order free testosterone level....freaking useless!)

    Grr! Anyway, if those mean anything to you guys....

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    as posted before, there is no proof "high" cholesterol causes heart disease. 1/2 of all those suffering heart attacks have "normal" cholesterol numbers.

    there is growing evidence that as women age we benefit from higher cholesterol.

    there is mounting evidence that women who do NOT have cvd, but take statins, suffer serious consequences: diabetes, strokes, dementia.

    you can do your own googling, but high cholesterol is NOT a disease. why are people taking a pill for it?

    it's your health, your body. if i were you, i would not take them.
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    LOL. You guys do know you don't have to "fend off" your doctor. Or reply to "threats" that they are gonna put you on statins right? You can simply say no. It's your body.

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    I talked my girlfriend into stopping the statins. After a year on them she was told she was pre-diabetic. I showed her an article on how statins cause diabetes. Done.

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