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    The fight against inflammation! Need reinforcements!

    Inflammation has basically been apart of my life for the past 3 years. TMJD (Jaw disorder) Neck pain, Headaches, and general systemic inflammation have done their best to ruin my quality of life. I have made progress lately with diet and exercise. I will overcome it. However, on days like today I just get angry, and depressed. I'm 23 dammit. I'm tired of being sick and tired and in pain. I want to live a happy healthy energetic existence.

    Unfortunately, my inflammation comes back. It's like 2 steps forward, (Sometimes 3) one step back. Today I woke up with a real slammer. I just started keeping track of what I eat. I'm wondering if its the squash/sweet potato/red potato dinner. I haven't had any problems with nightshades yet, and the red potato was like 1 and a half small ones.

    Here's what I ate yesterday, before feeling crappy today:

    Food journal for the Paleo Diet - PaleoTrack

    OKAY, I know that my macronutrients are out of balance. But I'm a poor man. I cant afford chicken or steak all the time, so I'm going to supplement with whey as soon as possible.

    Can too many carbs also be inflammatory? Is that what this is? Because I've been super low carb lately, not by choice but by wallet. SO I've been feeling really really slow, and kinda crappy anyways. Only headache free! So I'm like, okay, I need some more carbs... If thats the real problem...Then I'll just have to limit myself to 175 on days where I'm getting lots of exercise.

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    I can't use your link unless I have your name and password. How about copying it for us here. "squash/sweet potato/red potato dinner" is way too much starch. Wherever you are they must have farmer's markets. Buy leafy greens and roots - carrots, turnips, parsnips, beets, rutabagas, etc. They're all cheap. You'll have to learn to cook. Excuses won't do it. Canned fish is cheap and there are hugh variety, also look in Asia markets.

    If you want the inflamation to go you have to get to 65-70% fats, 25% protein, 10% carbs. Fiber, particularly insoluble, in inflamatory. Grain has the highest amount of fiber, but carbs have it also. "So I'm like, okay, I need some more carbs", you probably need more protein and fats.

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    Hey thanks! Here are my quantities:

    1 cup, mashed Bananas, raw 51.4
    2 large Egg, whole, cooked, fried 0.8
    1 cup chopped Carrots, raw 12.3
    1 tsp Salt, table 0
    2 cup, cubes Squash, winter, butternut, cooked, baked, without salt 43
    1 potato large (3" to 4-1/4" dia. Potatoes, red, flesh and skin, baked 58.6
    0.5 lbs Yummy Salad 11
    1 cup, mashed Sweet potato, cooked, boiled, without skin 58.1
    5 tablespoon Oil, olive, salad or cooking 0
    0.3 cup, cubes Avocados, raw, all commercial varieties 3.8


    I love carrots and I'll go ahead and try your recommendations. Btw I love cooking so thats not a problem. My problem is affordable protein. And isn't canned food just plain bad for you? I used to eat canned tuna but...

    So starch is the enemy huh?

    I'll take any tips I can get to beat this inflammation for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzulogic View Post
    Hey thanks! Here are my quantities:

    1 cup, mashed Bananas, raw 51.4
    2 large Egg, whole, cooked, fried 0.8
    1 cup chopped Carrots, raw 12.3
    1 tsp Salt, table 0
    2 cup, cubes Squash, winter, butternut, cooked, baked, without salt 43
    1 potato large (3" to 4-1/4" dia. Potatoes, red, flesh and skin, baked 58.6
    0.5 lbs Yummy Salad 11
    1 cup, mashed Sweet potato, cooked, boiled, without skin 58.1
    5 tablespoon Oil, olive, salad or cooking 0
    0.3 cup, cubes Avocados, raw, all commercial varieties 3.8


    I love carrots and I'll go ahead and try your recommendations. Btw I love cooking so thats not a problem. My problem is affordable protein. And isn't canned food just plain bad for you? I used to eat canned tuna but...

    So starch is the enemy huh?

    I'll take any tips I can get to beat this inflammation for good.
    Reduce those ingredients by one third and replace with animal protein and fat, include some coconut oil if possible.

    Can you walk to your local supermarket, if so spend some time down there to see when specials are on, if you're not working then make it a daily exercise for a while, it will cost you nothing and you can pick up some bargains.

    Forget all the organic, grass fed etc, if you are buying raw product, then there's less chance of bad ingredients.
    Do you have a freezer so if there is bargains on you can stock up?
    Buy a whole chicken instead of parts, roast it, split into 4 or 6 portions, there's a few dinners there, save all the bones and do a bone stock, there are plenty of ways to get affordable animal protein and fat.

    You were jumping on the juicing last week weren't you?
    Don't fall into the trap of jumping around different protocols, slow and steady is the order of the day, no drastic changes.

    Are you keeping a symptoms diary, recording positive and negative effects, dietary changes etc?
    If you were you could have looked back and seen quite easily if there was a corrolation between the multivitamins and your mood/pain.
    Personally I think multivitamins are a waste of money, just shooting wildly hoping to hit something, probably doing more harm than good.

    Just get in and do lots of reading on here and other blogs and links, start to get a feel for what is right for you, you've got plenty of time, you don't need to buy any books, you could spend months just reading Marks Daily Apple blogs and following the links.

    Basic balanced Paleo approach, not low fat or low carb, with some low allergenic mods, and don't forget the Paleo lifestyle and exercise, work on the headspace as well, stress management is just as important as diet.
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    Well what you listed sounds fairly good, but like you aren't getting enough protein. What about buying in bulk? Would that be an option for you?

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    My advice is here: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread80564.html
    Also, first read our book "The Primal Bluprint". You're not on our diet at all. If you can't afford to buy it, go to your library and read everything on Mark's front page.

    I understand that you can't afford Mark's supplements, but you probably can afford a probiotic and an Omega-3.

    "And isn't canned food just plain bad for you? I used to eat canned tuna but..." Read the labels. There are some very good ones. The Albacore Tuna I buy has ingredients of "Albacore Tuna" and I love it. Sardines, Herring, etc. are all great.
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    Thanks crypto! I read your other post.

    There is a lot of information to digest, so I've been working my way in slowly. I do take probiotics. I drink unsweetened flaxseed milk for omega3 as well as almond milk and coconut milk for other benefits.

    Probiotics are a must for me as they really helped me overcome my IBS.

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    Too many carbs, not enough protein. I really overdid the carbs yesterday.

    I'm looking at this cheap whey, but I'm not sure if its trustworthy. Amazon.com: Body Fortress Whey Protein Powder, Vanilla, 32 Ounces (907g) - Pack of 2: Health & Personal Care

    Bulk really isn't an option for a poor sick guy like me. My headaches have been so bad that I haven't worked in years. That is my primary motivation for this lifestyle. I've felt really good some days. But its still up down, up up down down.

    Wait wait wait...hold up. I just remember I started taking my multivitamin yesterday.. is that a possible cause? I've suspected some correlation before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzulogic View Post
    Wait wait wait...hold up. I just remember I started taking my multivitamin yesterday.. is that a possible cause? I've suspected some correlation before.
    There is a very good chance your multivitamin contains trace amounts of gluten, soy or dairy. You sound like you have real problems, so there is a good chance you are really sensitive to one (or all) of these common allergens. Stay away from the whey powder - there is a high risk it will contain undeclared allergens.
    Make sure you are not getting cross contamination of gluten/soy from other sources. Eg, shampoo/toothpaste/any other supplements or even from other people you live with.

    Then, add in some protein. The price of that whey will buy a lot of cans of fish or fresh eggs. Don't worry about the fish being canned or whether the eggs are organic. Do worry about whether they contain any additives or allergens - assume 'vegetable oil' means soy and you need to stay away from it. At this stage you just need to get up to a basic level of better functioning, then you can get a job and afford the better quality stuff. Do see if there is a way you can get some meat for protein. Don't be too fussy - you may be able to get some of the cheaper cuts closer to their use by when they reduce the price.

    I also have a GI condition and suffer inflammation that causes joints to ache etc. I know what it is like to lie there and feel as if every cell in your body aches. People who don't feel that almost every day have no idea what it is like.

    Whilst green leafy things are good for nutrition, the fact is for people with a GI issue they can be really irritating. Don't force yourself to take those if they make your gut worse. If your gut is bad you don't absorb as much of the nutrition anyway, so reducing that should always a high priority. Choose cheap vegies that sit well with your gut. Carrots, Butternut, sweet potato are all good filling and nutritious. Avocados are often expensive, so maybe spend some of that money on protein.

    Keep your spirits up. It takes four days for a glutening to start to to get out of my system. For other people it can take longer. Keep away from the allergens for long enough to really see an impact. Congratulations on taking steps to mend your health through diet. You can get your life back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzulogic View Post
    I'm sure it will get a thumbs down from many people (that's a Walmart brand, right?) but this is the only protein powder I've found that doesn't mess with my stomach (and I've tried many different kinds).

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