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    An interesting article recently published in The Lancet which unfortunatly, I don't have access too. Here's a quote from a news article:

    "A common assumption is that the rise in levels of atherosclerosis is predominantly lifestyle-related, and that if modern humans could emulate pre-industrial or even pre-agricultural lifestyles, that atherosclerosis, or at least its clinical manifestations, would be avoided. Our findings seem to cast doubt on that assumption, and at the very least, we think they suggest that our understanding of the causes of atherosclerosis is incomplete, and that it might be somehow inherent to the process of human aging.

    Read more: Even Mummies Had Clogged Arteries | TIME.com

    operative words, "seem to." Even so, I wonder if among us modern humans there is any correlation between atherosclerosis and lifestyle.

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    Bad assumptions lead to bad conclusions. All of the mummies examined were neolithic. Grain consumption has to be implicated
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    I have lately read articles where the researchers were very confused about what "Stone Age" and "Paleolithic" really mean.

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    Because they were ignorant, or because such peoples still often had sophisticated technologies so the connotation of those terms is polluted with presumptions of lack of development?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
    Because they were ignorant, or because such peoples still often had sophisticated technologies so the connotation of those terms is polluted with presumptions of lack of development?
    I'm thinking of a Huffington Post article where the researchers researched a "Stone Age" diet composed of mostly bread, dairy, and agricultural production. It was ignorance on the part of the researchers to call such a diet a "Stone Age" diet.

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    Also included in the study were 5 people from the Aleutians who would not have had access to grains / dairy and would have led a subsistence lifestyle high in marine lipids. 3 of the 5 had atherosclerosis and one, a 50 year old female might have required 2 stents had she lived today. Good audio with one of the lead researchers on PRI today. You can listen at:
    Researchers Find Ancient Mummies with Heart Disease | PRI's The World

    One interesting fact pointed out was that women had just as much incidence of heart disease as men and the researcher surmised wood fires used for heating and cooking might explain this.

    An excellent overview of this study can be found here:
    http://huntgatherlove.com/content/at...uman-condition
    Last edited by Chuck_S; 03-11-2013 at 07:57 PM.

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    5 is an extremely small sample size. I realize that the number of accidental mummies is limited, but still you have to keep in mind that any conclusions drawn from this have to be done so with a really big grain of salt.

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