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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpamix View Post
    The population isn't fat adapted because it's not optimal, or natural. It's a huge stress on your body and is used as an emergency response. Research is cherrypicked, because, ketones are highly protective and a preferential fuel over glucose, but the act of being in ketosis is a huge burden on your body.
    I haven;t seen anything but cherry picking with the opposing argument either, there is no definitive evidence either way as far as I have seen, one camp cites the Inuit, the other the Kitavans, in my mind there is no doubt that we evolved to survive at times on a high fat diet ketosis and other times on a high carb diet, both are on the fringe of the ideal, but ideally our body should be capable of doing both without ill effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j3nn View Post
    I never understood where the logic stems from that the body (and brain) prefer ketones, yet you can drop out of ketosis as easily as biting into a carrot. Wouldn't evolution have made the body fight to stay in ketosis a little more instead of bouncing--seamlessly--back to burning glucose? It fights hard against getting into ketiosis, so that doesn't suggest it likes or prefers something to me. Studies aren't even needed to observe this fact of all human life. I agree with you completely about it being a survival mechanism. The "carb flu," in my opinion, seems more like a warning that something is drastically wrong with the system and the body is going to turn on a backup generator while there's a shortage of fuel. Doesn't seem preferential to me. I think evolution worked it in to extend life until we could get our preferred fuels back in order.
    Boy that sounds logical to me. But what do i know, im a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j3nn View Post
    That's it. This forum has overused the term troll to the point of saturation. It's now a meaningless and antiquated Internet word because too many people used it wrongly.
    You're such a troll J3nn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omni View Post
    I haven;t seen anything but cherry picking with the opposing argument either, there is no definitive evidence either way as far as I have seen, one camp cites the Inuit, the other the Kitavans, in my mind there is no doubt that we evolved to survive at times on a high fat diet ketosis and other times on a high carb diet, both are on the fringe of the ideal, but ideally our body should be capable of doing both without ill effect.
    No no, you mean one sites the Inuit, the other sites every other group of people on the planet ever. The Inuit are also only several thousand years old and therfore are not paleo, yet they are the poster child for the paleo way of eating. Ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    Boy that sounds logical to me. But what do i know, im a troll.
    That's why it sounds logical to you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    Boy that sounds logical to me. But what do i know, im a troll.
    If you aren't in ketosis or you aren't eating within the carb curve, you are a troll according the the Primal disciples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YogaBare View Post
    You're such a troll J3nn.

    I knowwwwwwww. Good thing trolls eat carbs; someone has to take care of those insidious weight-gain parasites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j3nn View Post
    That's it. This forum has overused the term troll to the point of saturation. It's now a meaningless and antiquated Internet word because too many people used it wrongly.
    or, to quote mean girls

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    yeah you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omni View Post
    That's why it sounds logical to you!
    Explain why it's illogical and why we abandon ketosis so easily but struggle to initiate it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodorchid View Post
    or, to quote mean girls

    'stop trying to make fetch happen'
    I haven't seen the movie to get the reference.
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