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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmerl View Post
    I don't think you're mature enough to relate to other people as if they are actually people.

    That's why nobody else can be as smart as you. Other people aren't really real.

    That's why you're ok with talking about women being mounted as if they're livestock. Because they aren't really real people to you.

    The knowledge and skills that other poeple have isn't as important as the knowledge and skills you have, because you KNOW what you know better.

    Your ego is rejecting his advice because of course you know better than anybody else, because YOU'RE YOU. Nobody else gets it but you, because they aren't really real. Or at least, not as viscerally and palpably real as you.

    This is why people are criticising you here. Because the subtext of your posts is incredibly self-centered.
    How is cow sex different from human sex? Sex is not why I think humans are special from other animals. Should I stop talking about women being mounted as if they're livestock, or should you maybe reconsider why you don't think of things so simply and realistically? I'm comfortable talking about the dirty details of life because I choose to be a king, not a pawn. And I choose to be a sheepdog, not a wolf, with that power.

    I'm demanding an explanation from people who leave their advice vague, and I'm rejecting advice from people that have no advice at all to give.

    What do you know about my relations with other people? All you know are frustrated comments about finding an equal partner, and the following defense against those who say I'm an egotistical, lying, immature kid. I'm absolutely going to be harsh to someone that accuses me of such things without due cause. You don't know jackshit about the way I treat people.

    I'll entertain you though. Explain how I should be treating people if I am doing it wrong.
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    You've said previously that your 'IRL' personality is quite different from your online one. I think that's quite likely (since most anonymous trolls on the internets would get their comeuppance acting like jerks in real life).

    But I think on this here site here most people are a little more genuinely themselves. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong there.

    "Explain how I should be treating people if I am doing it wrong. "
    Treat other people as if they are worth just as much as you are. Believe it. Because they are. Even if you can run faster than them, punch harder than them, make more money than them, think faster than them, argue longer than them, whatever metrics you use to determining best/worth/valuable, suspend them.

    Let others praise you. If they aren't, maybe what you are doing isn't as praise worthy as you thought. Maybe you need to find a way of developing self esteem that isn't built up by tearing others down.

    Try to work out what's going on inside their heads. I am a big fan of games like Settlers of Catan to help develop this skill , since you can play it in a social and competitive context Working out where other people are coming from, where they are at emotionally, how they relate to their environment can make a huge difference as to how you choose to relate to them. There's no one right way to talk to people. Context matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterbike View Post
    I'm 26, dumbass. I wrote that because I wish someone had told me that and set me straight when I was posting similar stuff as you on the internet (when I was a whiny 18 years old).
    that was hilarious
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmerl View Post
    You've said previously that your 'IRL' personality is quite different from your online one. I think that's quite likely (since most anonymous trolls on the internets would get their comeuppance acting like jerks in real life).

    But I think on this here site here most people are a little more genuinely themselves. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong there.

    "Explain how I should be treating people if I am doing it wrong. "
    Treat other people as if they are worth just as much as you are. Believe it. Because they are. Even if you can run faster than them, punch harder than them, make more money than them, think faster than them, argue longer than them, whatever metrics you use to determining best/worth/valuable, suspend them.

    Let others praise you. If they aren't, maybe what you are doing isn't as praise worthy as you thought. Maybe you need to find a way of developing self esteem that isn't built up by tearing others down.

    Try to work out what's going on inside their heads. I am a big fan of games like Settlers of Catan to help develop this skill , since you can play it in a social and competitive context Working out where other people are coming from, where they are at emotionally, how they relate to their environment can make a huge difference as to how you choose to relate to them. There's no one right way to talk to people. Context matters.
    Parts of my personality comes through here. My stubbornness and willingness for confrontation are real traits of mine. Online though, a post can come out as sort of a diary entry which you would not say to anyone in person except in a very comfortable environment. I am also able to be more descriptive in what I mean. So, all of this IS my real personality. I'm not trolling or faking anything.

    Treating others as if they are worth as much as yourself? This is a utopian ideal that has truth and loopholes all over it. I actually disagree with your contention here. There are more specific elements I can agree with, but I cannot agree with the absolutes you are stating. Let's look at the two main parts to this statement.
    -Value of yourself versus others. Human nature often gets greedy when the going gets tough. Some sacrifice themselves for others, but they do not generally do this without cause. I don't think taking a bullet for someone should be required for me to prove myself, so take my word for it that my main goals in life involve humanity not myself.
    -Treating people equally. People are unequal, so there are certainly different ways of treating them due to this. I value people equally as humans, but I still have different ultimate values for people depending upon what their relationship is to me and things like that.

    I don't build my self-esteem by tearing others down. My self-esteem is just fine.

    I have an excellent understanding of people normally. This is due to my many life experiences.

    So, you're wrong.
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    not going to say anything beyond ....omg. What a hoot this thread is. I think its better than fiction, better than any comedy on tv. I love it.

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    I haven't actually read the entire thread, but why do you think that the top 5% of women are in school? I reckon the top 5% of women are scattered all over the place because, you know, an IQ test have very little to do with your ability nor your desire to study. Nor does it have to do with your interest in physics.

    Heck, I fall in a high IQ group(I think I was like top 7% or something). Yet I still suck at math, chose wildlife management for secondary education, and aspire an artistic or at least outdoorsy career. Yes, I'm somewhat intellectual which is evident in many ways (heck, got straight A's in many of my classes in secondary ed with close to zero effort, when the class average of hard-working students was a C. I'm still unsure how dafuq that even happened), but fail in others (I suck at strategy and had to work my way toward beating even the easy mode in online chess).

    Despite the fact that my intellect is in the top 10% and I might do well at anything I really put my heart into, I'm not interested in the conventional classroom. Why would I be, when I don't even want to live life in an office? I'd be wasting my time reading math and physics and other things that I don't like, when I could've used that very same time and money on a year-long wilderness survival course, or some handicraft classes.

    There are a lot of bright women reading physics who aren't in the top 5%, or who simply haven't taken the god damned IQ test. There are also a lot of 5% women who aren't aspiring to follow the path that intellectuals are expected to take. In fact, the brightest people I've ever known were musicians. You'd be surprisd at how much thought and structure goes into composing a classical music piece.

    Broaden your horizons a little. You'll never find someone who is exactly like what you want, and if you don't have a wide comfort zone you'll never find anyone you want even more than you think you want your dream image.

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    Maybe me arguing back at people who want to pile on me has only lead to more piling on, but I will say it again. I do not have problems meeting and making relations with women. I was merely commenting on the fact that there are many positive health signs which make it harder to fit in with society. Among these are intelligence, which specifically can make it harder to find an ideal mate. Everyone presumes to know me based upon some thoughts I shared on here, but they do not know me. The end.

    I think it's my willingness to take up an argument that leads me down this path... I'm always ready to be the heretic if I think I am right. So, it always ends up being me (the heretic) vs 1,000 angry minions.
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    I don't think intelligence is tied to health at all.


    I see very attractive, smart, fit and healthy men everywhere- my gym, the store, even work. I know that some areas, fit people are in short supply,and I imagine education levels drop. But you are out in California.... I can see you being an anamoly in say, Beckley West Virginia. I mean, I had an interview for a job in CA and every employee was smart and extremely fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnolia1973 View Post
    I don't think intelligence is tied to health at all.


    I see very attractive, smart, fit and healthy men everywhere- my gym, the store, even work. I know that some areas, fit people are in short supply,and I imagine education levels drop. But you are out in California.... I can see you being an anamoly in say, Beckley West Virginia. I mean, I had an interview for a job in CA and every employee was smart and extremely fit.
    It really depends on where in California you live. Last fall I stayed in an affluent neighborhood in SF and it seemed everyone was fit, in the rural area where I live that's not the case.

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