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    So no one knows of any studies refuting this?

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    Robb Wolf has an article here with many links...

    Red Meat: Part of a Healthy Diet?
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    There is plenty about meat that is bad. Usually it is overcooked which causes a lot of AGE's. unless its completely pastured on chemical free grass and water, the meat will have toxins. Also meat is high in certain inflammatory aminos which if overeaten can be a problem, as well as over consuming protein and PUFA. Lastly an excess of iron is also problematic.

    As you can see, there are plenty of potential negatives having to do with meat alone. Thats not to say that meat is bad, just over consumption and especially eating a lot of conventionally produced meat.

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    Oh, and you remember the link that you yourself provided in your first post. You know, the one that you edited this morning? It did a fine job of debunking these flawed studies.

    Nancy Deville: Follow Up Study to the Red Meat/Cancer Study

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    Most of those red meat causes whatever studies lump red meat in with processed meat. No doubt that bologna and hot dogs are bad for you, but steak is not bad for you. Also, consider that the government and doctors have been telling people not to eat steak so the people who try to be healthy are avoiding it, getting exercise, eating more vegetables and washing their hands often. The kinds of people who tend to ignore health advice tend to drink, smoke, not get exercise and otherwise don't follow any health advice.
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    Nancy Deville, the author of; "Healthy, Sexy, Happy", debunks scientific studies that gives red meat a bad reputation in Huffington Post!

    I am glad that Nancy is out there for us to guide all those scientist into a better understanding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorbag View Post
    Nancy Deville, the author of; "Healthy, Sexy, Happy", debunks scientific studies that gives red meat a bad reputation in Huffington Post!

    I am glad that Nancy is out there for us to guide all those scientist into a better understanding...
    The OP himself used her as a source, and then he removed it again. Believe me, I don't read the Huff, I was just pointing out the OP's inconsistencies. He is a troll, and he sucks at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    Most of those red meat causes whatever studies lump red meat in with processed meat. No doubt that bologna and hot dogs are bad for you, but steak is not bad for you. Also, consider that the government and doctors have been telling people not to eat steak so the people who try to be healthy are avoiding it, getting exercise, eating more vegetables and washing their hands often. The kinds of people who tend to ignore health advice tend to drink, smoke, not get exercise and otherwise don't follow any health advice.
    They are also lying and telling researchers what they think they ought to be eating, rather than what they actually are eating. It completely throws off a study when the participants make up their actual intake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vibe View Post
    So no one knows of any studies refuting this?
    I don't actually know of any well done studies substantiating it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by vibe View Post
    So no one knows of any studies refuting this?
    Now you are really getting sus.

    Editing your entire opening post, spent a bit of time doing that, did you actually read any of the studies posted or are you just throwing about headlines, not worth wasting our time on.

    Why don't you read those studies and go out and find a controlled study that only uses red meat as a variable and tell us what the outcomes of that study are.

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