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    Please, I really need help.

    My story is a fairly long one but I'll try to be brief!..

    I've been going on and off of low carb for over a year. I do great in ketosis - cravings wise, I am/was a serious sugar addict. It's taken me this long to really realize I just can NOT have "reward" meals... ever, period.

    I need to lose 100 pounds. I am a 49 year old female.

    I love ketosis because I feel like I have the appetite of what I would think a "normal" person's is but after a while I always start to have what I THINK are electrolyte issues. I've blacked out twice (almost three times) and was Dx as having "vagal nerve fainting". Dr. said it could be low blood pressure or electrolyte issues or both.

    I am also really struggling because I also have zero energy and never seem to really get any. I have been VLC for weeks at a time (up to 10 weeks) and just never seem to get any energy.. I think I just can't get fat adapted. I always end up "carbing up" because I feel like a slug and the fainting issues honestly scare the cr*p out of me.

    Energy wise I am ok for day to day function but when I do anything that is very exerting, like working in my yard (I live in central FL) or taking a very long walk, or get overheated at all this is when the issues with fainting or graying out crop up. I try to use sea salt liberally (per Art and Science of Low Carb Living) and I add concentrace minerals to my water. I am constantly VERY thirsty. I never seem to get enough water. (I am not diabetic).

    I recently went more towards Primal to try to add a few "safe" carbs like berries, apples, half a sweet potato and full fat Fage.. to bring up my carbs a bit (maybe 80 carbs a day max) but it's such a fine line that If I have too much at all I start having cravings. (I've been doing this about 10 days).. last night I had horrid cravings and ended up binging on pecans.

    I've been at this for so long I am beyond frustrated. Can anyone offer any advice? I feel pretty lost and confused.

    TIA.

    Cary~

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    Sorry to hear about your troubles. Could you possibly need even more sodium? If you are only adding it to your meals, you might not be getting enough if you are VLC. Peter Attia posted a while back about what he ate while VLC (I think he is VLC, I'm just making the point that this post is several months old).

    What I actually eat The Eating Academy | Peter Attia, M.D. The Eating Academy | Peter Attia, M.D.

    In the table he lists boullion (2-4g) which would contribute a significant amount of sodium. Homemade bone broth with added salt would be a much better choice of course. But try adding a good bit of sodium and see if it helps.

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    if something's not working for you, you can always change. why do you have to go keto?

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    Hi Jakey,

    I just have a very hard time with cravings when not in ketosis. I've tried countless times to "just have a few good carbs" adding in fruit, sweet potato.. etc (not all in the same day) and not worry about ketosis but so far I've not found a way to do that successfully. I always end up with allot of hunger again. I am still very much a work in dietary progress!
    Last edited by DaisyHair; 02-28-2013 at 11:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyHair View Post
    I just have a very hard time with cravings when not in ketosis. I've tried countless times to "just have a few good carbs" adding in fruit, sweet potato.. etc (not all in the same day) and not worry about ketosis but so far I've not found a way to do that successfully. I always end up with allot of hunger again.
    I totally can relate. I have had the same issues with the slippery slope of carbs. If I have a couple of pieces of fruit, some safe starch I suddenly become non-low carb. Some would say this is because our bodies need the carbs and we will not function optimally without them.
    Unlike you, I always feel fabulous while VLC. Good energy, sleep well, good mood. It's is the cravings/missing carbs that kicks me off the wagon.
    I don't really have advice- everyone is so very different. But I do wish you luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aimlow View Post
    I totally can relate. I have had the same issues with the slippery slope of carbs. If I have a couple of pieces of fruit, some safe starch I suddenly become non-low carb. Some would say this is because our bodies need the carbs and we will not function optimally without them.
    Unlike you, I always feel fabulous while VLC. Good energy, sleep well, good mood. It's is the cravings/missing carbs that kicks me off the wagon.
    I don't really have advice- everyone is so very different. But I do wish you luck!
    Thank you.
    I know I want and need to eat pretty low carb. I've found I can stay in ketosis at 40 carbs / day or under.
    I know I have insulin resistance because I was Dx with PCOS and also had a dark, velvety ring around my neck that Dr. said was a sign of insulin resistance called Acanthosis nigricans. It's totally gone.. so is the eczema on my legs.

    I know I'm on the right track. I suspect I just still don't get enough salt and need to add more fat.
    Right now I am in the nutrition forum reading about nutritional ketosis. I am torn between adding more fat or adding MUCH more veggie. (I crave raw veggies and I think it's because I stay dehydrated)..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyHair View Post
    Hi Jakey,

    I just have a very hard time with cravings when not in ketosis. I've tried countless times to "just have a few good carbs" adding in fruit, sweet potato.. etc (not all in the same day) and not worry about ketosis but so far I've not found a way to do that successfully. I always end up with allot of hunger again. I am still very much a work in dietary progress!
    DaisyHair- What is your ketogenic diet like? Can you give an example of what you eat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aimlow View Post
    DaisyHair- What is your ketogenic diet like? Can you give an example of what you eat?
    I've been pretty much "Atkins' Induction" style dieting for ketosis.
    Eggs with butter and cheese and bacon or ham most mornings. I also like scrambled with leftover salmon and lots of cream cheese.

    Sometimes I would make a huge batch of Zucchini hash browns with Italian sausage for breakfast on the weekends.
    Occasionally a "minute muffin".

    Recently in an attempt to add a few low GI carbs I switched to Fage with almonds and 1/2C berries for breakfast.

    Lunch is usually leftover dinner. I've been making mostly lots of meat and green veg or salads at nights. I buy large roasts (pork and / or beef) and get 2-3 meals out of them. Usually with green beans, brussel sprouts or asparagus roasted in CO or veggie salad or sauteed onion, zuch, tomato and summer squash on the side.. once a week is Salmon or whole roasted chickens... I try to eat very clean and cook 95% of our meals.. occasionally we will get a chicken Caeser from one of the fast food places or go out for a steak and salad for dinner somewhere.
    I keep Atkins bars and shakes in the house per DH's request and usually don't have a problem craving them because I have found I just have to not have one to begin with.. sweet taste can set me off sometimes.. just in general.

    What about you?

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    Thank you for the reminder re: the boullion.. I recently bought a jar of boullion paste I had intended on using to make broth to have at night and totally forgot about it. I really LOVE that link and like what he says about the transition being a continuum.. Now I don't feel so bad about how round about my journey has been so far. His article also makes me think I do need more fat. I just am not sure (yet) the best way for me to add it.. maybe my old coconut oil bark.

    I appreciate you taking the time to help me!

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    H Daisy. I don't have any answers, sorry. I'm in much the same boat - ketosis is the only thing that really works for me in terms of symptom control (IBS), weight loss and a normal appetite. But no matter what I try, I get mood crashes after a couple of weeks. I lose energy, spontaneity and a sense of joy. Any tiny bit of sweetness like berries, other fruit, starch - even beetroot, starts the cravings. Then it's all on, baby! I'm just coming off another period of diving face first into sugar, and I'm no closer to understanding what I should do next.

    I'll be following your thread and hoping someone will be able to offer something useful for you!!
    Started Feb 18 2011

    Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

    Journalling here

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