No it doesnt matter. If you tolerate it well then eat it!
I love everything dairy, I may get 3-5 serves of it daily. 2-3 of yoghurt, in coffees, cheese if it's around, etc.
I know it's not Paleo, because we didn't eat it 10, 000 years ago? We aren't adapted to it and it upsets our stomach? They are the only 2 reasons I know people on Paleo don't eat dairy.
Before I gave up the grains, I was bloated most of the day, felt "heavy", thought it might be milk, or gluten, tried to work out which, couldn't really... though not drastically over-weight I was yo-yoing, over-eating, etc etc.
Then I cut out the grains, but upped the dairy, especially the yoghurt. My stomach has never felt better, my weight is perfect, I'm satiated and not over-eating and I'm building muscle much more effectively.
So does it really matter that we didn't eat it 10,000 years ago?
My opinion is, if it disagrees with you, stop eating it. If it's doing you good, eat it.
No it doesnt matter. If you tolerate it well then eat it!
A) Raw dairy is ok, in moderation, in the PB.
B) What the guy above me said. Eat it if you like it and if your body is OK with it. I personally eat about 2-3 oz of raw cheese daily, when it's in the house.
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it's always Greek or Natural Yoghurt, nothing added, milk, cream cheese/ricotta/cottage - and yellow cheese if I'm "bad" :P
Always full fat and not "diet"
PB- milk products are OK if you tolerate it... with preference given to full fat raw and/or cultured dairy.
Our body is our subconscious mind, and anybody who thinks that their conscious mind is running the show is seriously mistaken. In fact the conscious mind just may be the most narcissistic entity in the universe, it thinks it's running the show. It's not.
~ Nora Gegaudas
"Everything can be taken from a man but one thing... -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way." ~Vicktor Frankl
And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.
From here: Cultured and Fermented Foods | Wise Roots NutritionThese medicinal and life giving foods included yogurt, kefir, aged cheeses, fermented beverages, sauerkraut, pickled fruits and veggies, sourdough breads…These superfoods had a reputation of maintaining good digestion, promoting regular elimination, supporting detoxification, enhancing fertility, immunity and much more!
And while I realize that bread isn't Primal, I've heard tell (and I think Mark has mentioned it in the blog somewhere), there's a southern CA vendor of 'magic' sourdough bread that is so real and fermented that even people with wheat issues can eat it and not get sick.
Don't eat those yellow blocks of Artificial Cheese Food Product from the grocery store, but do eat lovely fermented cheeses from cows, goats, and sheep.
Life without good red wine, cheese, and olives - positively uncivilized!![]()
"I puked like a hero for the rest of the night," Anthony Bourdain, 2002. (After spending the day eating ant eggs, bugs, and larvae, and drinking some gelatinous alcoholic stuff.)
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...no fury like me without diary!
I thought this thread was about keeping a Diary !!!!!!!!!! LOL
not about dairy !!!!!!!!!!
"never let the truth get in the way of a good story "
...small steps....
I have quite a bit of pastured dairy: cheese, sour cream, butter, yogurt, cream and milk (pastured, minimally pasteurized, local, non-homogenized). Works for me. Primal is not the same as paleo. What Grok ate is a starting point not a rigid rule.
Yes, I know. Even minimal pasteurization destroys enzymes and probiotics. Humans do not have to get those from milk. Grok sure didn't.
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