Originally Posted by PaleoMom
I've been experimenting with it since November. It started as an intuitive realisation that I was "doing it wrong". I started VLC Primal last April at 19% bf, dropped to probably 18%, but after a month I completely lost control of my eating and a dormant ED flared up. I continued with VLC Primal. By November I was a mess. I had gained about 10 lbs and I felt like crap. At that point I realised I needed to do something different, so I started stuffing myself with nutrient dense food, three times a day, and started eating beetroot and squash to get more carbs. I didn't binge for a month, then lost patience because I wasn't loosing weight and starved myself for a week. The weight literally flew off me. But then I binged and put it all back on. This was so disheartening.
I had taken a break from posting on MDA but at that point I had returned and I saw posts from Zach and Derp. I found their perspective interesting cos it was something quite new. I started PMing with both of them and they got me on to Matt Stone. Then I did something drastic and I followed the Matt Stone junk food protocol. For a month, I ate whatever I wanted. Cookies for breakfast, camarmel slices for my elevenses, ice cream whenever I wanted, lots of nutella, and kit kat chunkies. In addition I started eating potatoes, rice and dairy again, and kept eating loads of nuts, meat etc. Though most of the time I was too stuffed with crap to fit much good food in!
Anyway, after a month I was unbelievably depressed, had no energy, and felt like total shit. I ODed on junk food. The irony is that I probably only put on another inch around my hips and had gone up another 5lbs . I stopped binging and I started eating proper food, to satiation point. My measurements didn't change. After a while of doing this, I felt warmer, started having more energy and began exercising more. I naturally started cycling calories and my weight started to drop. I also cut back on dairy as I had gotten addicted to it...! I dropped about an inch in my hips.
However, this was actually bad news for me as well because I started counting my calories and macros and got too into making sure I was eating less and less on my "low calorie" days. By cutting dairy I had also cut out another food group - one that I really like. As if by magic, what happened? Yip, I binged. First time in two months. Of course, due to the epic nature of my binges, I put that inch back on
After the binge I started reading this thread and it's been incredibly inspiring to me. i have to stop this madness. I can't live like this anymore, binging, starving, counting calories etc. So in the last week I've just again been eating really nutrient dense food (mostly bone broth) - lots of carbs, lots of fat, lots of protein. Every day. And started taking supplements. I'm estimating that Im at around 2,500 - 3,000 cals a day (i'm not counting anymore) and I've been sleeping really well.
This morning I got a shock cos' I measured myself and the inch I'd gained back was gone. I weighed myself and I've dropped 7 lbs! To be fair I hadnt weighed myself in a while and I could have lost muscle so I don't take the scales too seriously. But the meaurement tape doesn't like. I don't know if this is the eating or maybe that my dairy consumption is more moderate now? I live in a perpetual state of bloatedness, so it's not that.
Anyway, I have the deep intuitive feeling that this is the right way of doing things. Keep going with it! I will too. It is so so liberating to think that I don't have to skip meals anymore or go to bed hungry.
You know what really interesting too? I started Primal reading Taubes who said calories don't matter. Then I started reading teh MDA forum that said they did (the current thread on it is a wonderful example). Now I'm starting to think again that there's something else to it. Don't know what it is. Maybe it's that when I eat all this gorgeous food to satiation point, I'm giving my body the signal that I love and respect it which makes me feel free, and reduces stress. I usually suffer from insomnia, so the deep sleep is amazing.
Phew, long post!
“I'm glad mushrooms are against the law, because I took them one time, and you know what happened to me? I laid in a field of green grass for four hours going, "My God! I love everything." Yeah, now if that isn't a hazard to our country..."
― Bill Hicks
"Sometimes eating the wrong food with the right attitude is a better choice than eating the right food with the wrong attitude... That’s how powerful the mind and the heart can be in the healing process."
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