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    you so DON"T have slavery still going on in America !!!!!!!!!!! come on ........................do you ??????????
    Actually there have a been a number of slavery cases prosecuted in the US in the past decade. Mostly dealing with illegal immigrant labor. Where the bosses keep their workers chained up, threatened and even killed if they try to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsAreGrok View Post
    Actually there have a been a number of slavery cases prosecuted in the US in the past decade. Mostly dealing with illegal immigrant labor. Where the bosses keep their workers chained up, threatened and even killed if they try to leave.
    +1

    This. True slavery is alive and well in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
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    This. True slavery is alive and well in this country.
    Alive and well? Hyperbole much?

    A few isolated cases /= alive and well.

    If you want to see slavery alive and well look at Middle Eastern countries with a strong Islamic foundation in their legal systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn View Post
    Slaves can't protest without being killed
    Unless they protest nicely, follow all the laws, respect private property and get prior approval.

    If they don't well then, they may have a problem as happened with North West Federal Grand Jury.

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    Nobody talks more about freedom than the enslaved, and nobody talks more about honesty than the crooks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsAreGrok View Post
    Actually there have a been a number of slavery cases prosecuted in the US in the past decade. Mostly dealing with illegal immigrant labor. Where the bosses keep their workers chained up, threatened and even killed if they try to leave.
    that is horrific and hard to imagine, however I am not disbelieving you, just think it is really sad that it is still happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsAreGrok View Post
    Actually there have a been a number of slavery cases prosecuted in the US in the past decade. Mostly dealing with illegal immigrant labor. Where the bosses keep their workers chained up, threatened and even killed if they try to leave.
    Have to agree. As employees of a utility company, we've all been taught the signs of human trafficking/slavery because it's a part of the real world, even in the modern United States.

    Sadly, some of the signs are things like completely blacked out windows, eye bolts and chains inside a home, or a whole bunch of cages with mattresses (if they're lucky).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RitaRose View Post
    Have to agree. As employees of a utility company, we've all been taught the signs of human trafficking/slavery because it's a part of the real world, even in the modern United States.

    Sadly, some of the signs are things like completely blacked out windows, eye bolts and chains inside a home, or a whole bunch of cages with mattresses (if they're lucky).

    It ain't pretty.
    I am truely finding this hard to comprehend. However I recently read about Jaycee Dugard. What an horrific yet amazing story.
    But sorry this is getting way off topic.
    What are eye bolts RR ??? or do I not want to know ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZ primal Gwamma View Post
    What are eye bolts RR ??? or do I not want to know ???
    Just a regular bolt with a loop or an "eye" at the end, so you can screw it into something solid and then attach something like a chain or a rope. They're pretty ordinary in and of themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn View Post
    Alive and well? Hyperbole much?

    A few isolated cases /= alive and well.

    If you want to see slavery alive and well look at Middle Eastern countries with a strong Islamic foundation in their legal systems.
    The fact that free people in other countries do not live by our laws is not the same as slavery, though in fact there are real slaves in many of these countries.

    There are places of work all over this country staffed by undocumented workers who are held there against their will. Some are sweatshops, some are restaurants, some involve domestic servants who receive no pay for long hours of work, some involve prostitution. Many paid thousands of dollars to come to this country, where they were promised real jobs and a path to citizenship. They may be held indefinitely as indentured servants until they pay back the money they or their families owe, which will never happen because they will never earn enough money to pay it back. The workers have no identification and live under constant threat of deportation by their "employers", who can simply turn them over to the authorities if they object. They may be told that if they escape, family members back home will be murdered, which happens. For real. In many cases, these workers do not even know they have rights.
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