5'7'' 139 lbs, primal since August 2011
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You will eat much more salted butter than unsalted one. So, as an appetite suppressor per se you need to use unflavored fat. Unpalatable foods >> palatable foods to satiate.
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When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.
Water for me, or soup, anything that fills stomach space.
F 28/5'4/100 lbs
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I strongly disagree.
Fat IMO is not very satisfying. Case and point - 1,000 calories worth of bacon, cheese, nuts or sausage vs 1,000 calories of chicken breast, broccoli or shrimp. See which is more difficult.
If you want to feel fullest on the fewest calories, focus on three things:
1.) Protein
2.) Water content
3.) Fiber
These are the things that really fill you up as they are typically high volume per caloric density. Great options are:
1.) Leaner meats with high water content and protein per volume - chicken breast, pork loin, eye round, london broil, eggs, brisket.
2.) Low-calorie roots and starches - white potatoes, squashes, carrots, parsnips, turnips. These things fill you up fast. It's like eating concrete, especially when boiled and mashed. Baking them into fries and such will greatly reduce the satiety because you cook the water out and you're now eating dense starch. Mix white potatoes and turnips - cube them, boil them and mash them for a low calorie, high satiety side dish.
3.) High water content/high fiber vegetables - broccoli, celery, cucumbers, watermelon, cantaloupe. You can pack in huge portions with little caloric impact.
Great foods to cut weight on - eye round, mashed potatoes, steamed broccoli, minimal added fat. It'll keep you full for a long time quality quality fat, protein and carbohydrate.
Great primal foods to sabotage weight loss: chicken wings, bacon, sausage, cheese, nuts, bulletproof coffee, fried starches. These are high calorie/low volume foods.
Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.
The Caveman Eats: My Primal Recipes for Athletes and Average Joe's Alike
What ChocoTaco said, listen and learn primal kids...
In principle, this makes perfect sense. But if I eat lean chicken breast and mashed potato/turnip mix with minimal added fat, I'm going to be sitting there counting the minutes until I'm hungry enough to eat again because I would feel deprived from such a boring, bland meal. But there's different kinds of hunger and we all probably experience them differently.
If I eat a big, buttered steak, I'm good until the same time the next day, easy. n=1.
That wouldn't work for me. Filling up fast with starches means blowing my calorie limit yet being hungry again soon. Filling up by gorging myself with low fat meats means blowing my protein limit and putting on weight. And I find no staying power with watery vegetables at all. Your list of food never to eat reads like the list of foods I have lost weight on.
This.
But I don't mind having some broccoli with it.
Also I've done the low fat boneless skinless breasts, steamed veg, with rice thing before... and though my stomach was technically full I still felt deprived and like something was constantly missing... and that made me want to "cheat".
What Choco is talking about is CW dieters mentality... eat low caloric foods and eat MORE of them for satiety. To that I say "Phooey". Not what I want at all.
The ability to eat fatty meats, and also plenty of veg, negates that feeling. I am satisfied with LESS food, and I like that.
YMMV.
N=1
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Our body is our subconscious mind, and anybody who thinks that their conscious mind is running the show is seriously mistaken. In fact the conscious mind just may be the most narcissistic entity in the universe, it thinks it's running the show. It's not.
~ Nora Gegaudas
"Everything can be taken from a man but one thing... -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way." ~Vicktor Frankl
And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.