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    no one on this site knows what the F you are talking about. If you want to have an intelligent conversation you need jackkruse.com
    You can not go by bred alone in the US. You have to do genetic testing in the US but you might be able to go by bred in other countries as in Kery Gold butter from Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Rx View Post
    no one on this site knows what the F you are talking about. If you want to have an intelligent conversation you need jackkruse.com
    You can not go by bred alone in the US. You have to do genetic testing in the US but you might be able to go by bred in other countries as in Kery Gold butter from Ireland.
    I know what she is talking about and you are being rude.

    Pssst. Dr. K doesn't walk on water.

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    @ Paleobird, Well said. I'm trying to give Greg Rx some benefit of the doubt, but his rudeness is an ill fated approach if he wants people to listen. Just received a dose of it in his (Well meaning)? post to me about statins.

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    Great replies, Thanks. I tried some N-1 tests in the past, hoping that my milk intolerance was limited to A1 only. What I found for A2 was surely not 100% A2. Whatever it was, I was intolerant to it also. But I still find it an interesting subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    I know what she is talking about and you are being rude.

    Pssst. Dr. K doesn't walk on water.
    Yep I sounded rude because in almost 6 months, not one single response. What would you conclude? Since the only place I have seen a discussion on the subject was on jackkruse.com So again, what would you Conclude?
    Mention JK and all of a sudden everyone has something to say. I am sure crytocode is grateful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Rx View Post
    Yep I sounded rude because in almost 6 months, not one single response. What would you conclude? Since the only place I have seen a discussion on the subject was on jackkruse.com So again, what would you Conclude?
    Mention JK and all of a sudden everyone has something to say. I am sure crytocode is grateful.
    GregRX, the Research section is for members to present research for discussion. I'm much more interested in the opinions and comments of others than of my own. Yes, I was sad to see no one respond and glad your mention of JK started a discussion. But you must have known that mentioning JK would invite a lot of opposition.

    I was particularly happy to read FrenchFry's comment. A2 worked for someone.

    FrenchFry, where do you live and where did you get pure A2 milk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Rx View Post
    Yep I sounded rude because in almost 6 months, not one single response. What would you conclude? Since the only place I have seen a discussion on the subject was on jackkruse.com So again, what would you Conclude?
    Mention JK and all of a sudden everyone has something to say. I am sure crytocode is grateful.
    Sometimes the right people aren't on the board at the right time to see a topic like this, and if it doesn't get bumped, it ends up buried under pages of threads. I know I just click the "What's New?" button and see what threads are there, and I assume others do as well. So, you bumping it got responses, because different people were on the forum at the time, which is awesome. Did you have be antagonistic? *Shrug* Probably not, but it's in the past now, so who cares!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Rx View Post
    no one on this site knows what the F you are talking about. If you want to have an intelligent conversation you need jackkruse.com
    You can not go by bred alone in the US. You have to do genetic testing in the US but you might be able to go by bred in other countries as in Kery Gold butter from Ireland.
    Yes, last time I looked -- some months ago -- Jack Kruse was evidently in agree with Prof. Keith Woodford. FWIW, I think Woodford is probably right. He's got some interesting data which while it may not be conclusive is certainly suggestive.

    If memory serves there's an old interview with Sean Croxton that's pretty interesting -- this, perhaps:

    Devil in the Milk | Underground Wellness

    There is, as I say, suggestive stuff there -- analysis of the urine of autistic children, some pretty telling rat experiments (not that we shouldn't be cautious of what people do with rodents) and so on ...

    Jack is a maverick but a very smart guy: I expect he has looked through Woodford's published papers, seen what's relevant in them, consulted his judgment and found them persuasive.

    I think the Paleo position -- Prof. Cordain's -- in ruling out all dairy products may go too far. I think Cordain may be ruling dairy out merely on the basis that it wasn't available to societies in the Upper Palaeolithic ... and then looking for scientific reasons to justify its exclusion ex post facto.

    Cordain's rhetoric on this can get a trifle tiresome. Sure, you can't catch a wild animal and milk it, but you sure can kill a suckling animal and eat its stomach contents (i.e. curds) -- and we know from the records that North American Indians did this. And doubtless other hunting peoples did similarly. I guess it wouldn't occur to a professor in a modern industrialized society to think of an animal's stomach contents as something to be eaten, but hunting peoples thought and acted in a different way.

    Cordain has a bundle of interesting objections to mlik and milk products in his latest book (The Paleo Answer), but whether this scattergun blast of disparate and diverse suggestions really gets at why dairy products really are problematic for some people is a different matter.

    In short, Woodford deserves a hearing.

    You're wrong about Kerrygold butter. If you look at their website, you'll see they have a photo of Friesian cows on it:

    http://kerrygoldusa.com

    ... and here's the direct link to the image of the cows:

    http://kerrygoldusa.com/images/kerry...me-slide01.jpg

    Friesans are at least 50/50 A1:A2.

    However, there aren't many milk solids left in butter, so perhaps it's not an enormous issue except for those who are sensitive.

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    I only buy A2 milk. Raw.
    Steak, eggs, potatoes - fruits, nuts, berries and forage. Coconut milk and potent herbs and spices. Tea instead of coffee now and teeny amounts of kelp daily. Let's see how this does! Not really had dairy much, and gut seems better for it.

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