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    Do you use protein shakes?

    I train for MMA and every single person I train with drinks protein shakes.

    Even Mark advise's them - and even though I do trust Mark - we all know a good proportion of his revenue comes from this product so I do not believe he can be completely unbiased.

    I personally feel that if I have a steak and steamed vegetables after my workout that has gotta be much better and easier to absorb than a bunch of powder.

    Whats your opinion?

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    I use protein powder mainly for the fact that I'm a student, and the whey protein powder I buy is cheaper per protein gram than any other source except eggs (which I already eat in abundance).

    I try to limit my protein powder use but now that I'm powerlifting and aiming for ~150g protein a day, it seems a bit inevitable because it is already quite an unaffordable lifestyle for a student!

    EDIT: Also I use Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey so it's naturally flavoured instead of chemically flavoured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nixxy View Post
    I use protein powder mainly for the fact that I'm a student, and the whey protein powder I buy is cheaper per protein gram than any other source except eggs (which I already eat in abundance).

    I try to limit my protein powder use but now that I'm powerlifting and aiming for ~150g protein a day, it seems a bit inevitable because it is already quite an unaffordable lifestyle for a student!

    EDIT: Also I use Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey so it's naturally flavoured instead of chemically flavoured.

    Is the O.N Gold Standard Whey you buy imported from the U.S? If so, thats kind of funny to me since where I am (in Canada), the purest, cleanest Whey protein comes from New Zealand (that is of course if the marketing is true) since New Zealand has very strict regulations with their dairy industry. All New Zealand Whey comes from grass-fed, antibiotic-free cows.

    I buy my protein from CanadianProtein.ca and they sell New Zealand grass-fed Whey and I have to say that the protein I get from this site is vastly superior to Optimum Nutritions. Mixability, taste, affordability and flavour (for the flavoured options) are better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshison View Post
    Is the O.N Gold Standard Whey you buy imported from the U.S? If so, thats kind of funny to me since where I am (in Canada), the purest, cleanest Whey protein comes from New Zealand (that is of course if the marketing is true) since New Zealand has very strict regulations with their dairy industry. All New Zealand Whey comes from grass-fed, antibiotic-free cows.

    I buy my protein from CanadianProtein.ca and they sell New Zealand grass-fed Whey and I have to say that the protein I get from this site is vastly superior to Optimum Nutritions. Mixability, taste, affordability and flavour (for the flavoured options) are better.
    Haha yes well the cows in my backyard can attest to the fact that all cows are grass-fed here... There's so much land. I wonder if we should put humans in a paddock and grassfeed them too. I'm not sure if all NZ cows would be antibiotic free though... I grew up on a dairy farm. I remember treating cows for various things, I assume they wouldn't hesitate to use antibiotics if the cow was sick. Or does it mean something else?

    It's actually funny because I don't see anything here in NZ labelled as NZ whey, but I'm probably not looking. Fonterra, NZs biggest dairy company, does package pure whey isolates up in 20kg bags. I should ask my friend who works there if they will actually sell it to me like that hahaha.

    Now you've got me wondering about it. To be honest they probably do export large amounts of it because they can get more money for it. Happens a bit here, with the meat too... all you primal folk overseas willing to pay top dollar for it makes them less willing to sell it to locals hahaha.
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    No. I see no need for them unless you're a weight lifter who's obsessed with bulking up and getting your protein nownownowNOW after a workout. I get sufficient protein through my food, and its a hell of a lot more enjoyable gnawing on a shank of pork than to drink a flavored chemical shake.
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    I do, just because I want to. I definitely don't have one every day; maybe once or twice a week, if that. It's a nice thing to add to smoothies if it's very fruit-laden and needs a bit more protein added. I just added a scoop to a smoothie this morning.

    I agree that there are much better ways to get protein into your diet, and I'd rather chew my Calories than drink them. Most of my 90-100 daily grams of protein come from eggs, meat, and raw dairy (in that order) but, again, if I need something quick or a little something-something in my smoothies, I'll add a scoop of grass-fed whey, because not all protein powders are...
    Quote Originally Posted by Damiana View Post
    ...a flavored chemical shake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiana View Post
    No. I see no need for them unless you're a weight lifter who's obsessed with bulking up and getting your protein nownownowNOW after a workout. I get sufficient protein through my food, and its a hell of a lot more enjoyable gnawing on a shank of pork than to drink a flavored chemical shake.
    Seems like a lot of misconceptions floating around this thread. Firstly, it's easy to find pure whey protein that doesn't have chemicals in it if you look past the major bodybuilding stuff. Secondly, protein shakes aren't what help you bulk up - a shitload of calories of which protein is a part does that. For any competitive athlete whey is a godsend, it isn't just for bodybuilders. I notice a huge difference in my recovery the next morning after comp training at judo if I throw a protein/carb shake straight down once we bow off the mat. When I don't bother with the shake and instead eat dinner a half an hour ish later, I generally wake up feeling like a truck has hit me.

    No one is saying you should replace meals with protein shakes. They are supplements people.

    It says on that site :

    "Research indicates that approximately 40% of the protein in high biological foods such as whole eggs, meat, fish, poultry is used by the body for anabolic purposes. Only about 20% of that found in low biological food such as whey, soy, egg whites, beans and nuts is used for growth and repair."

    To which research is he referring?
    I'm curious too. So egg yolks are "high biological" and egg whites are "low biological". Hmmm, I call bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judoka View Post
    Seems like a lot of misconceptions floating around this thread. Firstly, it's easy to find pure whey protein that doesn't have chemicals in it if you look past the major bodybuilding stuff. Secondly, protein shakes aren't what help you bulk up - a shitload of calories of which protein is a part does that. For any competitive athlete whey is a godsend, it isn't just for bodybuilders. I notice a huge difference in my recovery the next morning after comp training at judo if I throw a protein/carb shake straight down once we bow off the mat. When I don't bother with the shake and instead eat dinner a half an hour ish later, I generally wake up feeling like a truck has hit me.

    No one is saying you should replace meals with protein shakes. They are supplements people.
    I agree with this. I will have a protein shake maybe once a week after a tough workout. Whey is the most bioavailabe protein source partly because it has one of the best net absorption rates. I agree that we should consume whole foods more so than liquid sources but whey protein used as a supplement can be very advantageous in certain situations.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/51...-whey-protein/
    Last edited by Balance; 02-21-2013 at 12:10 AM.
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    Hmm...

    2 fine women telling me what to do... I could get used to this.

    I might meet you both in the middle and start using hemp shakes ( taste like hell ) but are a natural protein shake

    thank you

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    From what I understand (and this is a complex subject), whole foods offer just as much muscle building potential as supplements do. However, there is no way a steak will be absorbed more quickly or efficiently than a whey protein shake, particularly if it's whey protein isolate. One big thing is convenience, most folks won't want to cook a meal after a hard workout, they'll want to drink something that provides all the protein and amino acids your body is screaming for.

    From what I've read, pre-workout nutrition is just as important if not more-so.

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