it is therefore logical to anyone that understands that fact (you don't need to study the endocrine system) that having high amounts of insulin coursing through your veins will make you fat eventually. If you have low amounts of insulin you won't necessarily lose weight, you just won't gain weight because.....
Insulin is the only thing that can put fat in fat cells
I'd be curious as to your opinion of the four or five studies in my signature showing massive overfeeding of carbohydrates is extremely inefficient at producing fat gain. It seems you caught the Taubes bug. Perhaps you should broaden your perspective of biochemistry beyond simply insulin.
And regarding the original question, "high fat high carb" would be the SAD, where you're eating over 100 grams of fat per day in addition to 4-500 grams of carbohydrates per day, but that's also simply known as overeating, which will cause weight gain no matter what. It's easier to gain weight on a hypercaloric mixed diet, because as people said, glucose is oxidized preferentially, so the fat is stored, but stored fat doesn't stay there forever. That's the purpose of eating under your TDEE, so you rely on some of your stored body fat for energy. That's how you lose weight.
So I wouldn't fear eating a mixed diet as long as you're not overeating. It can't be both high fat and high carb in absolute terms; one will typically be higher than another, but that's entirely up to what suits your tastes.
Last edited by Timthetaco; 02-19-2013 at 07:05 AM.
So nobody gets offended, I'm not trying to assign a value judgment to the simple fact that people get fat when the energy they take in exceeds the energy they put out. Though you're obviously not going to believe that because you subscribe to a goofy theory that carbohydrates magically produce weight gain.
Last edited by Timthetaco; 02-19-2013 at 09:20 AM.
ugh. It isn't one or the other: Taubes/hormones versus Calories in Calories out. It's both.
When you play the CiCo card though you ignore lots of things like satiety that each of the different macronutrients bring; ie carbs are for many people have very low satiety per calorie, insulin response, glycemic index, the amount of volume I can actually eat (half a handful of nuts versus three heads of broccoli) etc.
of course you can simple eat less of your bacon and sweet potato waffles, and honey. Or you could just not eat them in the first place...
These are considerations that should be discussed when someone asks 'should I eat fat with my sugar?'
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I think that a high insulin response makes fat people fat. Makes the already fat fatter. If you are thin, it doesn't have that effect. It's kind of a mystery why people are fat in the first place, but I suspect it has to do with high omega 6 vegetable oils setting the ball in motion somehow. For people who are already fat, controlling the insulin response while keeping them from feeling hungry helps them undo the damage and lose weight. But for the already thin, why bother?
Female, 5'3", 49, Starting weight: 163lbs. Current weight: 135 (more or less).
Starting squat: 45lbs. Highest squat: 167.5 x 2. Current Deadlift: 190 x 3
"If man made it, don't eat it" - Jack Lallane
People say I am on a "crazy" diet. What is so crazy about eating veggies, fruits, seafood and organ meats? Just because I don't eat whole wheat and processed food doesn't make my diet "crazy". Maybe everyone else with a SAD are the "crazy" ones for putting that junk in their system.
Last edited by Shadowknight137; 02-19-2013 at 11:11 AM.