The beauty of a fat body page 7

[magnolia1973]

"Marilyn Monroe was a size 12. This model <whomever> is a size 2.

For reference, I am now a size 10/12. Sizing on clothes has changed. Significantly. Marilyn would be a size 2 today.

I think that mostly the preferred body for fashion has changed to a more boyish figure. (long legs, no curves). A "plus size model" just means a normal female body with tits and ass. And mass produced clothing has evolved to accomodate wheat bellies. I need a medium or small shirt at Target to be somewhat fitted thru the midriff, yet I can bust out the arms of an XXL. We are making clothes for weebles now.

I have noticed though more overweight people in television ads. LOL, I saw a commercial for a diabetes drug and could not help but yell at the screen, "try primal and lose 70 lbs."

[canio6]

For reference, I am now a size 10/12. Sizing on clothes has changed. Significantly. Marilyn would be a size 2 today.

Understood. The idea of the speaker was not to be realistic or honest. His plan was to make teenagers wearing a size 14 feel good about themselves because Marilyn was a size 14 and it is society's fault that a size 2 is now fashionable not a size 14. The fact that the sizes are now completely different would derail his message and therefore is ignored.

[little vase]

I haven't looked but I'm assuming that the photos are all of women, since I haven't heard any mention of men. Interesting.

[sbhikes]

Yeah, Monroe in her prime was a slender babe. No idea where this notion of her as a "curvy" chubster came from.

If you can find the movie "Some Like It Hot" rent it and you will see that yes, she had a lot of jiggling in her caboose. Tiny waist though.

[Legbiter]

I haven't looked...

Think Jabba the Hut's sisters, except worse.

[canio6]

I haven't looked but I'm assuming that the photos are all of women, since I haven't heard any mention of men. Interesting.

Why is it interesting?

Men are generally not called beautiful and most have far fewer issues with body image and the mental illnesses that can result from them. Put up 10 pictures of fat dudes and most guys would laugh.

[magnolia1973]

I think a big thing for women is an understanding of body type. Marilyn Monroe can not starve herself into a Kate Moss. However, fashion (and the media) dictates one body type- the tall waif as beautiful, while meanwhile the rest of society (ie, men) think that pretty much any body without rolls of fat is awesome. Tiny petite to tall and curvy. Guys love big asses and small.

I think riding is a great illustration. The best horseback riders are all different shapes and sizes, olympians have ranged from petite women to stocky men to tall lanky men to plus sized women. About the only shape you don't see at the top of the sport is the very top heavy with a short leg and long upperbody(physics). Yet you have "equitation" classes targeted to young girls and it is a focus on the riders style- so what wins is tall/long legs, thin, short upper body. So you have very fit but short legged girls trying to starve themselves into a body type they will never have. The thin long legs and short upper body looks great on a horse, very elegant, but is not necessarily the most effective type for riding a horse.

So... yeah, the long thin body looks great in all sorts of crazy clothes. But it's not necessarily the sexiest body naked or the most appealing to men. We would do better to make it less about weight and size and more about embracing your body shape at a healthy weight.

[athomeontherange]

I looked mostly at their eyes. No one looked happy, at all.

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[Gorbag]

I looked mostly at their eyes. No one looked happy, at all.

I can't remember any lean cat walk model that looked happy either...

[excursivey]

If you can find the movie "Some Like It Hot" rent it and you will see that yes, she had a lot of jiggling in her caboose. Tiny waist though.

Saw that black fringed dress she wore in this movie on Antiques Roadshow (yes I'm a nerd). They remarked about how tiny Marilyn was, curvy yes, but very petite in stature. It was pretty crazy looking at 2 regular sized people (sometime in the 00s I think) standing next to this little tiny dress...