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    Thought Experiment: keep Paleo a secret?

    I want to start a discussion about were you would like or imagine the Paleo movement going. I intentionally don't want to take sides because I don't want to influence the responses. Which scenario would you prefer or foresee and why?:

    Scenario #1:
    The Paleo nutritional and fitness guidelines are adapted into the mainstream. The USDA changes its dietary guidelines and, presumably, apologizes for all the sickness and death they caused. People eat as healthfully as they can given the new economic realities which will be created. Physical and mental health is at an all time high.

    Scenario #2:
    Paleo becomes the next Mediterranean/Atkins/pick your popular but generally-considered fad diet. The die-hards stick with it and continue to enjoy the great results the lifestyle affords us. The rest of the population continues to get fatter, dumber, and sicker according to current trends. For those of us who follow this lifestyle, we will find untold competitive advantages especially professionally and socially as our focus can be placed towards developing ourselves professionally and/or socially instead of dealing with the symptoms of a SAD diet.

    What are the key issues here?
    Which scenario is more likely?
    Paleo friends, go!

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    You're dreaming if you think most people will give up convenience foods.

    Of course option #1 is preferable, but it's extremely unlikely. If it happened though, I would expect economies of scale would drive the prices of our 'fringe' foods down.
    Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmerl View Post
    You're dreaming if you think most people will give up convenience foods.

    Of course option #1 is preferable, but it's extremely unlikely. If it happened though, I would expect economies of scale would drive the prices of our 'fringe' foods down.
    +1 to the whole post, but most especially the part about convenience foods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoanieL View Post
    +1 to the whole post, but most especially the part about convenience foods.
    Beat me too it. I just can't see eating real food that you actally cook, rather than just 'make hot and brown' ever going mainstream, not when there is a take-out place on every corner, hell I have at least 4 chippies, 2 chinese, 2 indian, 2 pizza places within a 10 minute walk.
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    I enjoy the current kind-of balance. While it is gaining some popularity, at least it is making it easier for farms to make money off of doing things right. However, it isn't big enough to get uberly taxed/regulated by the government....yet.

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    I would much prefer my loved ones who think I'm nuts to be healthy and happy, so Option 1
    Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

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    If you look at the trend in grocery stores over the past few years, not only are there prepared foods in the freezer section, but almost all of them have jumped on the rotisserie chicken bandwagon, and at the WFoods near me, they rotate the prepared salads, sides, and entrees so often, I'm guessing you could eat a store cooked meal every day and not get bored. Fortunately, they list the ingredients, so I'm rarely tempted. (I kinda miss those lemon feta fritters. *sigh*)

    Those big chains spend a ton on demographic/trend studies, so I'm thinking that not a whole lot of people are going back to the days when eating out or serving tv dinners (the olden days version of convenience foods) was an occasional thing.

    I also live just a three block walk from a street that has restaurants from pizza to Asian to tapas for miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoanieL View Post
    but almost all of them have jumped on the rotisserie chicken bandwagon
    wait, what is wrong with rotisserie chicken? other than that WF covers it in some stupid hippie herb concoction that is totally unnecessary and often off-putting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsAreGrok View Post
    wait, what is wrong with rotisserie chicken? other than that WF covers it in some stupid hippie herb concoction that is totally unnecessary and often off-putting?
    Nothing really wrong with it, except maybe it's CAFO (which I admit I very occasionally eat), but I was really using it as an example of how people are choosing store-prepared foods over cooking for themselves. Get home from work, slap a chicken in the oven, change clothes, wash off day grunge, answer email, meditate for 10 min, chicken is done (with no hippie herbs).
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    I'd prefer the "stealth paleo" version of this. The USDA and all the other official orgs plus all the food companies would just f-ck paleo up. It might be nice if doctors were more into it, though.
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