Bye bye cosmetics! Learning about skin and hair pH. page 6

[bloodorchid]

No lye, no soap

no lye = pot full of nice smelling goop

And glycerine soap began it's humble life with lye

if they say no lye they're fibbing. Re-batched soap is still soap

and fyi, store soaps are detergent which is why theyre harsh on skin. Home made soaps are gentil and dont strip your skin. The initial lye needed gets processed out while the bars cure

[zoebird]

bloodorchid is right.

due to the chemical process of adding lye to fat/oil (even from hemp), the lye is chemically altered such that it is not lye anymore. if you use the right amount and the soap cures, there's no more lye in the final process. but it's the lye -- in chemical reaction with fat -- that creates the soap.

[valmason01]

I think I am now confused.

[Taggy G]

YogaBare, I read the link to your poo-less post and I am totally going to try this! Thanks to you and others' posts, I feel I can do this too! Going to start a journal in the forums! Thanks

[Taggy G]

Great
Ive done the same
I do the CaveGirlEats oil cleansing method on my face every few days, and it feels awesome!
So cheap too.
I have not bothered with makeup for ages.

It extends to cleaning products in my home too, I use natural cleaners, no fly sprays etc.

I can't wait to try this, Ayla! Thanks for the info.

[YogaBare]

When I was living in India I stayed with some ascetic monks for a while (as you do). They did their washing up with ashes from the fire! It works amazingly well for dishes. Maybe not so much for skin :P

YogaBare, I read the link to your poo-less post and I am totally going to try this! Thanks to you and others' posts, I feel I can do this too! Going to start a journal in the forums! Thanks

Great!!! Glad to be of help

[Ayla2010]

They sent me the ingredients list though, so I did ask to explain since id read without lye there is no soap.
But maybe there is another way?
Surely they can't leave out things from the ingredients list though?

[zoebird]

When I was living in India I stayed with some ascetic monks for a while (as you do). They did their washing up with ashes from the fire! It works amazingly well for dishes. Maybe not so much for skin :P

lye is "pot ash" or the white ash from fires. So, "straight" like this -- it's a highly caustic base. Yes, it works for cleaning things! LOL

Added to fat, there's a chemical reaction where the lye is neutralized (and so is the fat), so that makes the soap neutral. Thus, soap, rather than "lye" and "fat." And therefore, it's not caustic anymore.

[bloodorchid]

They sent me the ingredients list though, so I did ask to explain since id read without lye there is no soap.
But maybe there is another way?
Surely they can't leave out things from the ingredients list though?

if they order a soap base and add in their own ingredients they can technically say 'we don't use lye'

but it's still a lie

*badum tsss!*

[Ayla2010]

I don't understand the soap base thing. Can you see from the ingredients list I posted, what could have the lye or whatever in it?