Why does cheese halt weight loss/make one gain but Whey and yogurt do not? page 4

[Jamie Madrox]

This sort of applies to me as well. I eat 8 eggs give or take a day and when i eat cheese ill cut up a few ounces, say 3 or less, and eat that in place of 3 eggs which is almost a straight swap calorie for calorie, fat for fat, protein for protein. I did this over the course of a week and noticed that my weight loss completely stopped. Not that I had much of anything to lose. Cheese is a finicky business.

[Gorbag]

Well, it is not competely true that ALL cheese are that calorie dense either, and my favorite cheese, a very tasty fresh cheese that I use to eat daily, has the following macros for 90 gram of cheese (=3 servings!): Calories: 135, fat: 3,9 gram, carbs: 3.0 gram, proteins: 24 gram.

[sbhikes]

That Dubliner cheese really is good. I didn't expect it to be so damn good.

[OneDeltaTenTango]

Anybody noticed that cheese made of caseins (highly inflammatory proteins which also drive insulin peaks), while whey is... whey, just not caseins. Additionally, yogurt is fermented: there are still caseins in there, but have beendenaturede.

I thought cheese is fermented as well. How does the long fermentation time of cheese affect caseins v. the short fermentation of yogurt?

[sakura_girl]

I thought cheese is fermented as well. How does the long fermentation time of cheese affect caseins v. the short fermentation of yogurt?

I thought so too....I just thought that cheese has a way higher concentration of casein because it's strained a lot harder than yogurt, so as much of the whey is removed as possible.

[Gorbag]

Both whey and casein are awesome, but what we usually call "cheese" is made from the seperation of casein. Whey isolate spikes insulin far more than casein, and even more than pure sugar. For this reason many strenght athletes are using Whey isolate post-workout and casein is often used before bedtime since it takes much more time to digest.

[sakura_girl]

I thought it was the lactose that was insulinogenic.

[Gorbag]

Protein, especially Whey is the insulinogenic part in milk to my knowlegde, lactose like fructose doesent spike insulin at all...

[sakura_girl]

Oops.

[MamaGrok]

IDK about insulin, but fruit (whole fruit, straight from the tree, just one piece) sure does spike my blood sugar.