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    Dr. Oz is not the Devil?

    Free the Animal has a post about an article on Dr. Oz that puts him in an entirely different light than most of us consider. Phigment and I were just talking about what a whacko he is and I have to say this post made me reconsider my words. Not entirely mind you but who knows...in a world where Dr. Oz is not the devil what else is possible??

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    of course he's not a bad guy

    his nutritional advice is still cringe-worth for those who believe differently than he does
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    He is exceptionally intelligent and an excellent surgeon, however, I've found that over the years, his advice has gone from practical to downright sensationalist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiana View Post
    He is ........ an excellent surgeon
    I have seen similar quotes about his surgical skills, but how do you know this to be actually true?
    He might just be good, or average, or possibly even a marginal surgeon (who knows and how do they know?).

    What data is there to compare his skills to other surgeons that don't have TV shows and PR teams behind them?

    Example:
    I might think my neighbor a professional pilot is excellent at his/her job (at least it appears so - I haven't heard of any incidents he caused and he has worked for years), but I'm not a pilot to know his levels of skills, and even if I was a pilot, if I'm not working closely with my neighbor the pilot, how do I know if he is excellent or average or what ever?

    OZ: As far as exceptional and excellent - he's doing quite well in show business (I see the evidence for that )

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoveSleep View Post
    I have seen similar quotes about his surgical skills, but how do you know this to be actually true?
    He might just be good, or average, or possibly even a marginal surgeon (who knows and how do they know?).

    What data is there to compare his skills to other surgeons that don't have TV shows and PR teams behind them?

    Example:
    I might think my neighbor a professional pilot is excellent at his/her job (at least it appears so - I haven't heard of any incidents he caused and he has worked for years), but I'm not a pilot to know his levels of skills, and even if I was a pilot, if I'm not working closely with my neighbor the pilot, how do I know if he is excellent or average or what ever?

    OZ: As far as exceptional and excellent - he's doing quite well in show business (I see the evidence for that )
    Of course, what we do know about him is totally unattractive: a dishonest showman. So suddenly on this one day he becomes a paragon of decency. We have no idea how he reached the position he has at Columbia: smiled a lot? slept around? kissed important a-sses? Forgive me for being cynical, but I firmly believe that although chances that one achieves a high position in the present day American medicine just because of brain and skills exist, they are rather small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anna5 View Post
    Of course, what we do know about him is totally unattractive: a dishonest showman. So suddenly on this one day he becomes a paragon of decency. We have no idea how he reached the position he has at Columbia: smiled a lot? slept around? kissed important a-sses? Forgive me for being cynical, but I firmly believe that although chances that one achieves a high position in the present day American medicine just because of brain and skills exist, they are rather small.

    Yes that may be - I personally don't watch him - he and his show are a sick joke, but he has lot of 'followers' - mostly women it seems.

    Point is often people that like him and even ones that dislike him say he's a brilliant surgeon.

    I'm saying : where's the evidence of his brilliance in SURGERY? ( surgical operations, NOT directorships, board memberships, lecturing etc )
    Not that he hasn't or cant do surgery, there are plenty of surgeons that can do that.

    Brilliant means the best of the best in my mind.

    How do they know he's that good?

    Its often said so it must be true?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoveSleep View Post
    Yes that may be - I personally don't watch him - he and his show are a sick joke, but he has lot of 'followers' - mostly women it seems.

    Point is often people that like him and even ones that dislike him say he's a brilliant surgeon.

    I'm saying : where's the evidence of his brilliance in SURGERY? ( surgical operations, NOT directorships, board memberships, lecturing etc )
    Not that he hasn't or cant do surgery, there are plenty of surgeons that can do that.

    Brilliant means the best of the best in my mind.

    How do they know he's that good?

    Its often said so it must be true?????
    Exactly my point. I don't watch him either (I don't have TV), but I did check one or two short videos on the Internet, as I did watch one or two Oprah shows when I had TV and it was "Now I am thin, now I am fat, now I am thin, now I am fat."
    But yes, many women and some real, big brown/black pigs like them both.
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    He's really just so all over the board with stuff I have no idea what he is or what he stands for. He seems to acknowledge that people are in general over medicated which actually puts him heads and shoulders over 90% of medical practitioners. I'll admit I think I've only seen like one of his shows. i only know of him second (or would that be third?) hand.

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    To be fair i never watch him. Even commercials of him make me cringe. And because he is all over the place I find it hard to take him seriously. The post and article did give me a different view however, and makes him a bit more palatable. Like him or not he is the go to health guru at the moment so he is to be taken seriously as his views inform our society as a whole.
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    He has become an infomercial for whichever new thing is on the market - no matter if its contrary to something he's said in the past.

    He sells the latest snake oil...
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