Y'all certainly seem to spend a lot of time tearing each other apart for people who are supposedly living the same lifestyles. Not everyone does things the same way you do - and that's true no matter who reads it. That doesn't mean they're wrong and it really makes you sound like a jackass when you adopt a holier-than-thou attitude about someone else's personal preferences. The original question was 'are these foods considered primal?' the answer is no, they aren't. Other member offering tips as to what might be closer to primal and still satisfy her sweet tooth until she can wean herself down further doesn't make the other members any less primal. It's a stepping stone, cuz not everyone can just jump right in.