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[Pebbles67]

I loved the Keto Calculator until it told me I would not reach goal for over a year.

The thing seems to have "calorie fear" built in. it didn't like that I wanted to eat 85% fat and around 2000 cals

EDIT: If I put in Moderate exercise, it says I hit goal (25% fat) on 11/29/13. That is slightly better.

[demuralist]

ah, but it has me hitting my goal in over 2 years. Of course would be better than the last 2 years so I shouldn't complain!

[mks8500]

Okay, no personal experience, but I just read the 'Alternate Day Diet' by Johnson. You know how those diet books are, there's alway a range of personal anecdotes. Well, one concerned plantar faciitis. The diet is supposed to reduce inflammation, due to action by SIRT1, activated by the fasting days. He experimented with it on asthmatics(How do you spell that? It looks funny.) and had good success. A friend of his had plantar faciitis, and tried the diet, found relief in two weeks or so. I'm not saying try it, but you might want to read the book, or see if you can find any other research about it, to consider.

I'll look it up for sure. I'm wearing the 5 fingers around the house now and I swear I'd love to hate these shoes because they're so ugly but it doesn't hurt as badly as it did earlier today. I appreciate all the comments. I have soooo much sympathy for anyone that's ever experienced this. Yikes!!

Megan

[Paleobird]

Thanks I've just realised & updated my original post. I typically stick to below 10g but I think the protein number is the most important (assuming you already low carb)

Thanks for finding that calculator. That is the most all on one page and accurate tool for this I have seen.

[Primal123]

I have had plantar fasciitis a few times. Stretching my calf before bed and when I woke up was critical also I was either barefoot or wear Birkenstocks. Both times it went away once I consistently stretched before bed. Reducing inflammation with diet probably didn't hurt either, I've learned that various things lead to inflammation for me including things like cashews, even a smidge of sugar etc...

[OzK]

I really don't think height has anything to do with how your pants fit or what size you wear. Just looking at the cross sampling of everyone here, it is clear that we are all different and there really isn't a "one-size-fits-all". When I was at my most physically fit, all muscle, I could not get below 160. We're talking 130-pound-hay-bale-stacking muscles. Before my life was that physically active I held steady at 135. Same pant size. Contrary to what CW would have us believe, the number on the scale isn't the be-all-end-all. I'm working hard at being comfortable in my own skin, regardless of weight, rather than stressing about the number on the scale not being low enough.

Believe in yourself
Like who you are
Never say quit
Positive mental attitude

I think you're absolutely spot on there. Body composition/frame size dictates so much of what the scales say. Just looking at our body in the mirror will tell us if there's more fat to go. It's too easy to go nuts being guided only by the scales!

Geostump, those results are awesome.

And here's an interesting new twist. Last year a Brit doctor did some extensive research into the impact of IF on health. The doco is called Eat, Fast, Live Longer, and it's screening in the US on PBS April 3. There's a website about it too, at:

The Fast Diet » the secret of intermittent fasting: lose weight, stay healthy, live longer

Anyhow, the whole thing is really interesting, especially tying in to everything MS has to say about the benefits of IF here at MDA. In a nutshell, the program is: eat normally 5 a days a week, fast 2 non-consecutive days eg Mon and Thurs. On the fast days women stick to 500 calories and men 600. In the doco there's lots of great official medical/scientific info and test results. If you happen to hear a lot of scaremongering about IF putting your body into starvation mode, being dangerous etc, roll your eyes. The idea that the human machine is going to implode after 1 day of reduced calories is such nonsense I can't believe any self-respecting so called scientist would even suggest it.

I'm officially giving the program a go, but instead of going hog wild on the 'feed' days, I'll be sticking to regular primal eating, with my 'treat' foods consisting of some sweet potato and some berries with double cream. Non-primal folk have enjoyed huge success even eating non-primal carby stuff, but I don't want to get back on that roller coaster. And I'll report on what happens with me. I'm adding in an extra fasting day (Mon/Wed/Fri fasting, the other days regular eating) because I want to accelerate the fat loss. I'm also working out 6 days a week, 3 days non-chronic cardio, 3 days ncc with some weights as well.

For the record, I've dropped nearly 6 lbs since March 1st. I'll be very interested to see where I'm up to at month's end.

[Ddraig Goch]

And here's an interesting new twist. Last year a Brit doctor did some extensive research into the impact of IF on health. The doco is called Eat, Fast, Live Longer, and it's screening in the US on PBS April 3. There's a website about it too, at:

The Fast Diet » the secret of intermittent fasting: lose weight, stay healthy, live longer

I saw this program when it first came out. Michael Mosley is a well-respected Dr/journalist who is always trying out the latest nutrition craze to see if it works. He is the UK’s human guinea pig. (BTW he first introduced the UK to HIT exercising) He started his ‘2 day diet’ by exploring weekly fasting but decided it was too brutal and ended up doing 2 days of lo cal over a week. Lots of people have had good results with it over here.

It was what got me looking into IF. I was going to try his diet but then realised the health benefits of daily IF are greater & found NK so never actually bought the book.

Well done on your loss. It will be interesting to see how you get on.

[OzK]

I saw this program when it first came out. Michael Mosley is a well-respected Dr/journalist who is always trying out the latest nutrition craze to see if it works. He is the UK’s human guinea pig. (BTW he first introduced the UK to HIT exercising) He started his ‘2 day diet’ by exploring weekly fasting but decided it was too brutal and ended up doing 2 days of lo cal over a week. Lots of people have had good results with it over here.

It was what got me looking into IF. I was going to try his diet but then realised the health benefits of daily IF are greater & found NK so never actually bought the book.

Well done on your loss. It will be interesting to see how you get on.

Well, he's a game one! I'd never heard of him before this. That's interesting about the HIT stuff. Clearly he's a man more interested in truth than protecting turf. I bought the book on spec a few days ago, then watched the doco that he did. What I like about the process is that you can easily incorporate low carb primal (which is a perfect health match for me) with the health benefits of IF, while not having to severely restrict calories or deny yourself a treat now and then or be too picky in difficult social situations. So for me, it looks like a flexible, doable, long term proposition. Which I'm not entirely sure strict NK is. Today's been my first fast day, and while not entirely terrible it is a bit empty. I'm hungry, but I understand once the body adjusts, the strong hunger fades. Brad Pilon 's been talking about this for a while with his Eat, Stop, Eat philosophy, but he advocates total fasting. This one gives you a bit of food, so it's more widely user friendly.

Of course there's much hysteria from the CW crowd - especially the ones who stand to lose a lot of diet industry money should this WOE take off. *g*

Even so, following this, if you make wise feed day choices, it is possible to remain in NK, at least lightly. And that's all to the good.

And thanks! I've got a long way to go, but at last I'm starting to feel I can reach the goal, after many years of struggle.

[geostump]

In regards to the idea of fasting, I can maybe fast through a meal here and there and it doesn't disrupt weight loss. Anything more than that, and I can almost guarandamntee a binge.

[demuralist]

In regards to the idea of fasting, I can maybe fast through a meal here and there and it doesn't disrupt weight loss. Anything more than that, and I can almost guarandamntee a binge.

+1, exactly what she said!