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    regarding the chatter we are having about our protein levels (not sure which thread it is on, but figure it would be useful here, so that is where I am going to pick it up)...

    reading a blog in which the woman is also doing a NK diet and keeping pretty good records (well did), she used Dr. Kwasniewski's equation to determine protein levels....height in centemeters, minus 100, equals protein (as well as your "goal weight") plus or minus 10%.

    Interestingly for me, it is what I had originally determined...my height in centimeters is 170, my protein then is 70g, and plus or minus 10% would give me a range of 63g to 77g which is pretty much where I keep ending up.

    Then, still using his equation, carbs need to be half that. So for me 31g to 38g (this is total carbs) again pretty much where I have been shooting (I do Net carbs and try to make half of my total carbs in fiber).

    But the interesting part is that the Dr. advocates for 2.5 to 3.5 x's the "goal weight" number in total fat! And that is way higher than what I have been shooting for!

    It worked for her. My Low Carb Road to Better Health: LESS PROTEIN - MORE FAT - "THE OPTIMAL DIET"

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    The Optimal Diet is where our kilogram HSIS macro formula in the first post is adapted from. Maybe I should put the actual formula in as written by him.

    The whole "Hot Stuff in a Swimsuit" thing seems to mean different things to different people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demuralist View Post
    But the interesting part is that the Dr. advocates for 2.5 to 3.5 x's the "goal weight" number in total fat! And that is way higher than what I have been shooting for!


    Interestingly, if I were to put my numbers in to this formula the macros comes out the same as yours max P12-C6-F83, min P13-C6-F81 which is pretty much what mine is now in terms of fat (17-2-82). For NK I suspect the macro is more important than the calories. So if you are going to aim for this sort of ratio, your ketone monitor should hopefully confirm this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebbles67 View Post
    The Optimal Diet is where our kilogram HSIS macro formula in the first post is adapted from. Maybe I should put the actual formula in as written by him.

    The whole "Hot Stuff in a Swimsuit" thing seems to mean different things to different people.

    I suspect using the actual formula will confuse people. Its nice & simple the way you have set it out on the first page.

    Re HSIS (I love that term) what is your definition - mine would be different depending on whether the swimsuit was a bikini or a one piece lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by demuralist View Post
    regarding the chatter we are having about our protein levels (not sure which thread it is on, but figure it would be useful here, so that is where I am going to pick it up)...

    reading a blog in which the woman is also doing a NK diet and keeping pretty good records (well did), she used Dr. Kwasniewski's equation to determine protein levels....height in centemeters, minus 100, equals protein (as well as your "goal weight") plus or minus 10%.


    Then, still using his equation, carbs need to be half that.
    The part "height in centimeters minus 100, equals protein (as well as your "goal weight") plus or minus 10%. (as well as your "goal weight") I don't understand the part in parenthsis. I'm 157.48 cm minus 100 is 57.48 grams protein. Right? Where does my goal weight figure in. I'll double the protein for the fat grams and half the protein for the carb grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosemary 231 View Post
    The part "height in centimeters minus 100, equals protein (as well as your "goal weight") plus or minus 10%. (as well as your "goal weight") I don't understand the part in parenthsis. I'm 157.48 cm minus 100 is 57.48 grams protein. Right? Where does my goal weight figure in. I'll double the protein for the fat grams and half the protein for the carb grams.
    your height in centimetres minus 100 represents your protein in grams & your goal weight in KG.

    So in your case your goal weight (according to the formula) should be 57.48 kg or 126.7lb

    In my case mine it would be 68 kg or 150 lb which is 3 lb higher than my known comfortable weight & 13lb higher than my suspected HSIS but would be a good weight for me to aim for if I didn't know what my goal weight should be
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddraig Goch View Post
    I suspect using the actual formula will confuse people. Its nice & simple the way you have set it out on the first page.

    Re HSIS (I love that term) what is your definition - mine would be different depending on whether the swimsuit was a bikini or a one piece lol
    The HSIS part was added by Paleobird I think because she thought the goal weight and calories were too high for her.

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    Thanks, Ddraig Goch, I get it now, head is clearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 252dlp View Post
    That is my goal is to be able to listen to my body and have TRUST in what it is telling me! Love that Ozk!

    I never really put my trust in anything totally (as far as diets/health goes) until it works. I'm the kind of person who needs a little structure or plan to get started, but once I get started I have no problem tweaking things if it's not working...one reason why I decided to try the EMF thing. I've been hungrier the last couple of days, so just decided to eat more--yesterday that included macadamia nuts and Black & Green 85% chocolate (about 6 tiny squares). Today I'm back down to my EMF low weight.
    Go you! The whole trust thing is vital, and it makes me sad and angry that so many of us, especially women, have lost the ability to hear and correctly interpret the signals our bodies send us. So many things conspire to make us live our lives outside in, not inside out. We are subjected to a constant daily barrage about how we look, how we should look, how we're not good enough, how external opinion is more valuable than internal -- it drives me nuts. So one of my big focuses now is to tune out the crap and listen to me, trust in me, do what I think is right for me, and not fall into the trap of seeking external approval. Nobody will believe our voice is our voice and must be respected unless we start believing it first.

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    Hi all, so last week when I returned from my trip I had dropped several pounds while away but the scale quickly betrayed me and I put on several pounds over the week. This week I started adding more salt in and immediately felt my rings tighten and the scale jumped 3 pounds over night. 3 days later I am down 6 pounds. Crazy, crazy scale. Good news I am back under my initial goal weight. Adding the salt killed my already poor appetite but I am trying to keep my calories up and have started calorie cycling to make that easier. I am regularly hopping on my nordic track for 20-40 minutes plus doing some body weight exercises. I feel great. Definitely feel I am building muscles. I ate a baked potato one day this week. I lost the sucking nickles taste in my mouth the next morning but it was back by evening so it didn't do too much damage.

    Hope everyone is having a good weekend. Loved the formula above it gave my a goal weight very close to what I had chosen as my hsis goal.
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