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    My moment is that a friend of mine has a son with pretty serious behavioral issues. She has noticed an increase in his aggressive behavior when he gets too much sugar and processed flour but her dh refuses to allow her to change his diet. I'm not even talking about grains here (because I can see that if you believe grains are good for you it seems "risky" to remove them) he wont even agree to a reduction in sugar. WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twibble View Post
    Errrrm. No. That's part of taking the medication for ADD, in a lot of cases. I was never hungry during the day, and could eat a cow at night. I was also a bitch at night due to the ADD meds...
    Eh, I've never been one for breakfast. Lunch, yeah. Breakfast, no. Same even on the meds. Doesn't seem to affect me, moodwise, at all. I can definitely tell when I haven't gotten enough sleep, though. More so than before the meds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runnergal View Post
    My moment is that a friend of mine has a son with pretty serious behavioral issues. She has noticed an increase in his aggressive behavior when he gets too much sugar and processed flour but her dh refuses to allow her to change his diet. I'm not even talking about grains here (because I can see that if you believe grains are good for you it seems "risky" to remove them) he wont even agree to a reduction in sugar. WTF?
    It's a psychological mechanism. If removing the sugar helps, that means that he has been harming his child by feeding him sugar. If he doesn't do anything, he doesn't have to admit it.
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    Not funny more of OMFG are you serious?

    A guy I take culinary classes with is severly overweight (I'd guess he is about 350-380). He wants to lose weight. I have been telling him (in a non-pushy way) about primal. He says it is too much work. His solution - a lapband. Okay, that is bad enough but weight (yes, that was on purpose) there's moar!

    He is not breathing well enough for the lapband so they are going to remove his tonsils, part of his soft palate and shave his tongue all so he can breathe better to go get a lapband.

    Really? and that is not hard work? good lord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runnergal View Post
    too much sugar and processed flour but her dh refuses to allow her to change his diet. *snip* he wont even agree to a reduction in sugar. WTF?
    WTF indeed. Sounds like a marriage power struggle (which he is completely winning) rather than any rational decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canio6 View Post
    Not funny more of OMFG are you serious?

    A guy I take culinary classes with is severly overweight (I'd guess he is about 350-380). He wants to lose weight. I have been telling him (in a non-pushy way) about primal. He says it is too much work. His solution - a lapband. Okay, that is bad enough but weight (yes, that was on purpose) there's moar!

    He is not breathing well enough for the lapband so they are going to remove his tonsils, part of his soft palate and shave his tongue all so he can breathe better to go get a lapband.

    Really? and that is not hard work? good lord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehallowprince View Post
    I have little respect from people when they tell me dropping bread in favor of bacon is "too much work" ...
    I agree. The fact any doctor would suggest cutting out parts of your body so you could have some band put around your stomach amazes me. Someone agreeing to it amazes me more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canio6 View Post
    He is not breathing well enough for the lapband so they are going to remove his tonsils, part of his soft palate and shave his tongue all so he can breathe better to go get a lapband.
    Maybe I'm biased because I'm terrified of surgery, but howwww could anyone choose that over giving up grains?


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    It's because of the perception that watching your diet without surgery requires less self-control than dealing with the physical pain of a surgery and the recovery. Unfortunately a lot of folks are fooling themselves because they still have to watch their diet after getting the surgery. Forever. Or they end up learning to "eat around the band" and end up getting fat again in an even less healthy way.

    The extensive counseling required before one of these surgeries is _supposed_ to address that, but I am sure a lot of people just nod and agree without really internalizing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canio6 View Post
    Not funny more of OMFG are you serious?

    A guy I take culinary classes with is severly overweight (I'd guess he is about 350-380). He wants to lose weight. I have been telling him (in a non-pushy way) about primal. He says it is too much work. His solution - a lapband. Okay, that is bad enough but weight (yes, that was on purpose) there's moar!

    He is not breathing well enough for the lapband so they are going to remove his tonsils, part of his soft palate and shave his tongue all so he can breathe better to go get a lapband.

    Really? and that is not hard work? good lord.
    My step-dad had a gastric bypass and almost died. My aunt currently has the lap band, and while she has lost like 100 pounds, she throws up a LOT and has a lot of digestive issues.

    I have a friend who wants to lose weight and instead of doing it the HEALTHY way, she is considering gaining MORE weight so she will be eligible for lap-band. Because right now she isn't 'fat enough'. She complains about the cost of eating healthy (She does WW and her 'healthy' includes expensive cheeses in her lasagna etc.) I keep gently telling her about Whole30/Primal/Paleo and she's one of those people who 'could never give up bread/ice cream/etc.)

    I just don't understand.

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