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    A link between the gut and serotonin? What's good for stress?

    I was watching underground wellness channel recently and one of the videos went over depression. What really startled me was that supposedly the gut produces serotonin, the main chemical thought to be involved in depression. Is there actual research that backs that up?

    My parents are frequently stressed due to there job. Is there a supplement that would relax them that isn't illegal? I heard something about Gaba which alters dopamine levels.

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    Any chance they'd do something other than take a pill, like use a stress-reduction technique? I use Heartmath. Basically it's like a mini-meditation. There's a short version and a long version. It really works, and their literature has a lot of thorough research on how stress works and what it does to your body.

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    Actually I think it's 80 percent of serotonin and thus melatonin is produced in the gut. On top of that, 80 percent of your immune system is in the gut. The gut is most definitely "the second brain"

    I, just like Sean Croxton, don't believe in treating with pills unless you're simultaneously treating the root cause. GABA would help relax, while L-Tryptophan would help with happiness through serotonin and probably sleep through melatonin...

    Supplements are GREAT imo. But if you're not reducing stress and fixing the gut naturally, then they are treating their gut just like the pharmaceutical companies would, with less side effects.

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    Ja it's produced in the gut and 80% of serotonin resides in the gut. I remember this video being awesome and very pertinent to the discussion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYT5s...os=z6lEq7YYLAU . Anything that might get screwed up in the synthesis?

    If they're stressed it can be other deficiencies too. Vitamin d, DHA and magnesium come to mind (most people are deficient in ALL of those. And more). And then a lot of the time it's just a lack of conscious psychological ability to cope with these things. A couple of months ago I was getting my usual awesome nutrition but was seriously undermining it by being upset and stressed easily. Some deep breathing like EGY advocates on his blog or some positive-thinking "spiritual" stuff like Paul Chek specializes in would be worth a shot too. Maybe...just maybe...health issues aren't all the result of a pill deficiency.

    Maybe.

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    The Mood Cure by Julia Ross - really good read!

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    @ Helene in Oz - My parents work own and manage a small optometry practice. So the stress is unavoidable and may get worse. I hope not. My father and I are naturally tense, even when relaxed. I'm slowly getting them to eat better, but I can't quite convince them of the carbohydrate hypothesis. Which I think would help even more. Is heartmath a website?

    @ FabMandy I do want to read the Mood Cure, sounds interesting although a little too good to be true. I'm reading GCBC though. Hope to finish it by next week.

    @ Stabby - interesting concept. Presentation was confusing since he wasn't pointing out what he was talking about. I hope I can make positive thinking much easier for me. I will check that out later.

    @ EGynutriton- I'd love to be off all of my medications, but I doubt my doctors would approve without some proof of not needing them. It would be crazy getting my gut to heal, and THAT fixing all of my other problems.

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    Heartmath uses some breathing and visualizing methods. In short, you practice doing little meditations - breathing 'through the heart' and thinking about a good feeling - 'go to your happy place', I say - and then pay attention to recognize how you feel physically, noting the improvement. With practice, you can apply it any time you start to feel stressed, so you can think more clearly and respond more effectively.

    Here are a bunch of links I put together earlier for someone who pmed me about it.

    Here's some links

    http://www.heartmath.org/
    http://www.macquarieinstitute.com.au/

    here's a good little intro
    http://www.heartmath.org/about-us/qu...-12-to-18.html

    http://www.lifepositive.com/Body/Hea...ation62007.asp

    If you're keen and want to read further, The Heartmath Solution is the book I recommend as it is very readable, with a lot of background research, case studies and tips. The style can be a little bit 'hard sell' at times - aimed at persuading people that this stuff works, but don't let that put you off.
    http://store.heartmath.org/s.nl/c.58...ategory.593/.f

    I hope I'm not coming across as too evangelistic about this stuff (maybe I should start up an affiliate website or something!) but it works, so - well there you go anyhow, hope it's useful to you. Feel free to PM me about it anytime.

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    Strom, you're going to laugh at that post in a year, probably less, if you keep the healthy lifestyle up...

    For two reasons:

    You'll realize how worthless pharmaceuticals are, and probably switch to a doctor to doesn't emphasize drugs and surgery before nutrition and herbs.

    And you'll realize that the gut controls the health of your entire body. The kg of bacteria in your gut control you and your health.

    Julia Ross's diet cure and mood cure are both excellent books that have helped numerous people. Reading both would be of great benefit.

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    Is any more good online reference about this Enteric nervous system (I think that's what its called) link with the mind? Also the link in say Depression, OCD and muscle tension.

    How do you find a doctor that doesn't emphasize drugs over medicine. Would he be covered under insurance, or affordable enough that its not really an issue?

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    You can get "The Second Brain" for 10 bucks on amazon... Has all the info you need

    http://www.amazon.com/Second-Brain-G.../dp/0060930721

    And you can find a Holistic M.D. here:

    http://www.holisticmedicine.org/disp...articlenbr=118

    Or maybe ask around at an organic grocery store or the like... people know people

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