[QUOTE=2ndChance;1073351]to be honest, I would like to one day grow my own food and know for certain that I am not inflicting suffering on anyone. [quote]
A great place to get started is a community garden. most of them are organic, reclaimed land, and diverse people taking care of the plots together. You get a lot of produce, learn about what is seasonal, and meet like minded people. You also learn all kinds of gardening skills, which is useful if you want to extend your process in growing your own food.
Also, look into foraging. We did some foraging today -- mussels and also seaweed, parsley, rosemary, dandelion greens, and fennel. There's a lot of fruit, nuts, and veg out there -- right in front of us! There are some wild blackberries at a park near our offices, so I'll be going there with DS on Monday to pick some more.
I think a lot of kiwis are foodies, though. I mean, today was foraging heaven out here by our house -- so many people foraging seaweed, mussels, paua, and fishing. That and home gardening is just a way of life here.
I understand it's also been unbearably hot this summer in Aussie!
For my own part. . .
I would be interested to see how it goes for you.
I was vegan for 5-6 years, in a way similar to what you describe. I was eating mostly fruits and veggies, some grains (quinoa, millet, oats -- some sprouted bread), and legumes (lentils, kidney and black beans were most common), as well as sprouted beans and seeds, as well as some nuts and seeds.
I really enjoyed it, but -- as others have said of their own vegan journeys -- my health ultimately didn't fare well. I am now paleo. I don't do legumes or the grains anymore (though quinoa and millet are technically seeds, so I don't mind doing them on occasion -- yes, I read the recent quinoa articles, too. we still have some on the shelves, so. . . we will finish it).
I added back in eggs. The first batches were from my friend's chickens. they were pets. Nice girls. I'd love to have my own someday! Then I added meat back in. That's been beneficial. And bone broths, that's really done wonders.
We have diversified our palate to include more fish/seafood. So, we are learning to fish/forage as well. We can get these things right outside our front door, so we might as well.
And, I'm looking to do more community gardening. I have to find one in our suburb, though. Or start one.
1. an oral disagreement; verbal opposition; contention; altercation: a violent argument.
2. a discussion involving differing points of view; debate: They were deeply involved in an argument about inflation.
3. a process of reasoning; series of reasons: I couldn't follow his argument.
4. a statement, reason, or fact for or against a point: This is a strong argument in favor of her theory.
5. an address or composition intended to convince or persuade; persuasive discourse.
As you can see, an argument is a point of view, period. If an argument is legitimate only if it is based on facts, then there can be no legitimate argument about an abstract or theoretical topic which by definition is not factual. Sorry, try again.
They have one pregnancy per year just as is natural for their wild counter parts such as deer for instance.
One seasonal pregnancy.
What man has bred into them is prolonged and increased lactation, where their lactation period has become of longer duration, and of greater capacity, than required for simply raising an offspring.
The seasons are managed a bit different since they need to keep sections of the herd lactating year round and they don't want all cows drying off in preparation for the next birth at the same time... but the process is exactly same.
The cows I get milk from live outside on pasture all day every day... barring hurricanes and other inclement weather they wish to seek shelter inside the barn in... they lead a lovely life, birth a calf each year much as nature intended cows to do... and even are allowed to nurse that calf for portion of the day naturally up to a certain number of months when the calf is then weaned(not an abnormally early age, it is fully capable of eating on it's own and requires no further bottle supplementation).
“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.
Also, the legitimacy of an argument is its logical cohesion, not whether it's based on facts. For example, since you brought up religion, you can make a logical, i.e. valid argument against or for the existence of God without, obviously, any facts.
Lastly, my argument was indeed based on facts. The individual pieces that composed my argument was mostly fact, the deduction, however, is just my point of view.
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