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    I just started this today, after realizing that my goal of hitting a full (12-week) Starting Strength cycle was just NOT going to happen given the time it takes.

    Started with Level 4 (since my pullups are crap), eked out 20 rounds after subbing in body rows in Round 5. (negatives for the pullups in 3 & 4).

    Pushups and squats were dandy, no problems there. This should be good!

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    Ok, I did L5D2 w/ 3-min rests.
    Under 5 mins (4:33)

    Here is why I don't like "SimpleFit".

    1) There is too much rest. 1 min of work / 3 mins of rest
    And these are standard moves that don't require serious recovery (like burpees or sprints)

    2) There is not much room for improvement since this is TIME BASED:

    At 5 reps, I can't do pulls ups much faster.
    Maybe I can shave a few seconds eventually, if I were doing a lot more.

    I can't do pushups any faster.
    30 is easy for me.

    I can't do air squats any faster.
    To go faster would simply require compromising form.
    (Not going down or up as far, and doing some jerky quasi-1/2-squat)

    Verdit: While the "grid and levels" are appealing, partly b/c it seems like a "system",
    for the same 17 mins, I can get a much better workout without standing around for 75% of the time.
    (eg: Tabata pushups, pullups, squats in 12 mins with a LOT more work)
    And, I doubt I can really get much farther once I find out my optimal grid level.
    You can only get so fast.
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    You didn't pick a beginner level at which to start! How many rounds did you manage?

    Most people take a day off between SF workouts. (I do M-W-Sat.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity View Post
    Yeah... but... that's primarily achieved through diet.
    i'm going for the "lift heavy, get big" logic here. since i'm not doing much more than some kettlebells for weight training, i figured it was worth a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyBodyWeight View Post
    Ok, I did L5D2 w/ 3-min rests.
    Under 5 mins (4:33)

    Here is why I don't like "SimpleFit".

    1) There is too much rest. 1 min of work / 3 mins of rest
    And these are basic moves that are not intense (like burpees or sprints)

    2) There is not much room for improvement.
    I arbitrarily tried Level 5. But, since this is TIME BASED:
    I can't do pulls ups much faster. Maybe I can shave a second or two.
    I can't do pushups any faster. 15 is easy for me.
    Air squats. To go faster would simply require compromising form.
    (Not going down or up as far, and doing some jerky quasi-1/2-squat)

    Verdit: While the "grid and levels" are appealing, partly b/c it seems like a "system",
    for the same 17 mins, I can get a much better workout without standing around for 75% of the time.
    (eg: Tabata pushups, pullups, squats in 12 mins with a LOT more work)

    "X"
    Is Day 2 the only day you've done? Because that's a weird place to start. Day 2 really only makes sense when it is sandwiched between Day 1 and Day 3.

    Give the full cycle a shot before passing judgement.

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    Hi, I guess I am a Chearson too! Although the other way round started at simplefit and got recommended this site! Seen massive changes in body form since starting and am at level 4 after 30 weeks and going strongish level 4 is tough!

    I just wanted to offer some advice to those who can't yet do a pull up without substitution, it took me ages to get my first pull up I did not manage to do full pull ups on day one until level 2 but stopped myself leveling up until I could do d3 dead hang. I took it in stages using rings on my day one slowly lowering the ring until horizontal and slowly building up strength!

    Good luck Grok simplefitters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyBodyWeight View Post
    Ok, I did L5D2 w/ 3-min rests.
    Under 5 mins (4:33)

    Here is why I don't like "SimpleFit".

    1) There is too much rest. 1 min of work / 3 mins of rest
    And these are standard moves that don't require serious recovery (like burpees or sprints)

    2) There is not much room for improvement since this is TIME BASED:

    At 5 reps, I can't do pulls ups much faster.
    Maybe I can shave a few seconds eventually, if I were doing a lot more.

    I can't do pushups any faster.
    30 is easy for me.

    I can't do air squats any faster.
    To go faster would simply require compromising form.
    (Not going down or up as far, and doing some jerky quasi-1/2-squat)

    Verdit: While the "grid and levels" are appealing, partly b/c it seems like a "system",
    for the same 17 mins, I can get a much better workout without standing around for 75% of the time.
    (eg: Tabata pushups, pullups, squats in 12 mins with a LOT more work)
    And, I doubt I can really get much farther once I find out my optimal grid level.
    You can only get so fast.
    While I'm not in total agreement with the Day 2 set up, personally, it is described at more of a Strength day. Longer rest periods are typically recommended for strength (limit) training.

    From what I've read on the website and Cheapo's posts is that the 5 min thing is really only important for Day 3 in determining if you should move up a level or not. The 5 min thing on Day 2 is just a general guideline to see if Day 3 will give you problems or not. It's not supposed to be a benchmark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyBodyWeight View Post
    Here is why I don't like "SimpleFit".
    If pushups and air squats are too easy for you, then sub in the one arm/one leg varieties. And I don't think it's a rule that you have to rest 3 minutes between sets on Day 2.

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    i thought "for time" meant as little rest as possible, so three minutes is way too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthjusticeUSAway View Post
    i thought "for time" meant as little rest as possible, so three minutes is way too much.
    The Day 2 of any SF level does say to rest three minutes, but it's not necessary at the lower levels if you have a decent foundation of strength already. I probably only rested a minute and a half between sets today.

    But the "for time" aspect of it really only matters on Day 3. Day 2 is for time, yeah, but you don't count rest periods in that time.
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