This doesn't sound, or look, like anything a "normal" person would eat. So maybe "looking like Mark" is not particularly natural, or even a good idea for most people? Not that you shouldn't try, if that's what you want.5 whole eggs cooked in 1/2 teaspoon of Kerrygold with about an ounce of goat cheese and some grated potatoes I baked on aluminum foil so I didn't need oil. Served cold I ate this exact meal 4 times last week.
"I need large pieces of dead cow to be happy." - skink531
"You truly are delusional and other forms of insanity apply go you. You aren't even interesting." - oceangrl
"Obesity is a growth disorder just like any other growth disorder. Specifically, obesity is a disorder of excess fat accumulation. Fat accumulation is determined not by the balance of calories consumed and expended but by the effect of specific nutrients on the hormonal regulation of fat metabolism. Obesity is a condition where the body prioritizes the storage of fat rather than the utilization of fat."
May change the second sentence to say: "Fat accumulation is determined not only by the balance of calories......", but otherwise I think its spot on.
We now have studies indicating that the obese and metabolically challenged do partition and utilize energy differently than those who have never been so. We have several macronutrient studies showing a difference between fat and lean mass accumulation or loss when varied. We also have a few "paleo" studies indicating quality of nutrients rather than just quantity comes to play.
Its both quantity and quality that have hormonal effect. There is just more work to be done. Nothing in science is "proven", just supported or not supported by the evidence. Thats why these silly little disagreements persist.
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As to fruit vs. starch.....well search the Perfect Health Diet site for "Ray Peat" and you'll find a very interesting discussion.
This study ended up proving the exact opposite it purposed to, which is just plain funny:
Green tea extract only affects markers of oxidativ... [Br J Nutr. 2002] - PubMed - NCBI
"The overall effect of the 10-week period without dietary fruits and vegetables was a decrease in oxidative damage to DNA, blood proteins, and plasma lipids, concomitantly with marked changes in antioxidative defence."
I only link that cause this I think it follows well into what this lady has to say. I think she makes some good points....don't just look at the home page and say "oh she's a carnivore" she does have input on fruits and tubers that ain't all "death by plant" :
Vegetables » Diagnosis: Diet
And no I was not speaking to going back to any CW type diet after HFLC, simply slowly reintroducing higher carb Primal foods once their system was healed... such as fruits and starches.
So, no... not Atkins or SB "diet" style where you pick a date and got just dive in, but where it's a journey and you really pay attention and listen to your body.
I do not think that once a person reaches their goals of losing weight that adding a few pieces of fruit and or potatoes back into their diet each week is going to put them right where they started in regards to weight. But it does give them more latitude to eat and be healthy and happy... and not feel restricted to LC foods all the time.
I am strictly against HFLC as a "DIET" to lose weight then tossing it... just as much as I am anything else around here as far as hacks.
Anytime one does "x" until "x" and then stops the end result is usually that things get away from you.
There has to be an after plan.
I always encourage the long haul/journey perspective.
Slow and steady people. It's the journey, not the destination... and all that.
Because you're really going to be doing this for the rest of your life. Eating that is...
So finding a way to lose weight and keep it off while feeling both satisfied/satiated AND satisfied with food choices in the long term is very important.
I do firmly believe that as long as people are sticking to whole foods that they can slowly transition to more fruits and tubers from HFLC and be just fine.
“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.