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    cooked vs dry measurments

    Hi everyone,

    I am just starting out on Primal and have three questions. Should veggies, for example greens, be measured raw or cooked? 2 cups of cooked vs raw is a big difference in volume. I want to be sure to get between 100-150 grams of carbs. I did Atkins about 7-9 years ago and lost a ton of weight but I was SO carb restrictive that I felt I was dying. I had a horrible color, always really cold and tired. The tiredness was the worst part. This time around I am alot older and want to do this right. I want to lose weight and have enough energy to have an active lifestyle. I plan on joining Krav Maga and want to do well.

    My second question is: Is it alright to eat mostly coconut oil, olive oil and avocados for fats instead of animal fats. The reason for this question is that I eat Biblically. The Bible says to not eat any animal fat and thats what I follow. and yes I do know what is allowed rabbinically but I don't care. I only follow what the Word says. Will an avocado a day ruin any chance of losing weight?

    My final question is: If i lose all the excess weight that I would like to lose, about 80lbs, and add A LOT of lean muscle mass, will this muscle mass make it easier to keep the weight off? Meaning that if I slip up and binge as i did at least once on Atkins, will I have a hardcore layer of lean muscle mass underneath a triple layer of fat or will it be easier to stay thinner? I hope that makes sense.

    I have been overwieght since i was 4 months old. I have successfully lost 86 lbs before and kept it off for 2 years, but then i slacked. I am now older and i don't drink alcohol, or smoke or do drugs anymore. I am kosher, and gluten and diary free. I have been 90% grain and legume free for the last month and i havn't even started primal diet yet. I don't drink anything but water or sugarless tea. i don't even use natural sweetners other than honey or vanilla extract. i am 100% fastfood free and have been for at least 1 year. i want to succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJT515 View Post
    Is it alright to eat mostly coconut oil, olive oil and avocados for fats instead of animal fats. The reason for this question is that I eat Biblically. The Bible says to not eat any animal fat and thats what I follow. and yes I do know what is allowed rabbinically but I don't care. I only follow what the Word says.
    Acts 10:15b "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."

    But more seriously, those three fats sound fine. Do you eat fat from eggs?

    If i lose all the excess weight that I would like to lose, about 80lbs, and add A LOT of lean muscle mass, will this muscle mass make it easier to keep the weight off?
    Yes, if you have more muscle tissue then that will raise your BEE (Base energy expenditure) and help prevent weight gain, since you have more muscle tissue to sustain.
    Last edited by magicmerl; 01-16-2013 at 04:20 PM.
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    thanks

    [QUOTE=magicmerl;1063937]Acts 10:15b "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."

    But more seriously, those three fats sound fine. Do you eat fat from eggs?


    Yes, if you have more muscle tissue then that will raise your BEE (Base energy expenditure) and help prevent weight gain, since you have more muscle tissue to sustain.[/QUOT


    Thank you for your help. Yes I do eat eggs, I didn't consider that. I will rethink that. I am also aware that primal is not low carb, that is why I want to figure out how much is 150grams of carbs.

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    I'm a little confused. Do you eat meat?
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    yes, i just started eating meat on Dec. 3rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJT515 View Post
    yes, i just started eating meat on Dec. 3rd.
    Then you are eating animal fat.
    I too am confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayla2010 View Post
    Then you are eating animal fat.
    I too am confused.
    ok, i didn't really want to get in to this conversation again, but i will explain. the Bible says to not eat the fat of animals. when i eat for example ground chuck, i can't really do anything about the fat in it. but if i eat a piece of steak and it has some extra bits of fat hanging off of it, i will cut it off and give it to my dogs. i am trying to be as realistically obiedient as i can without being legalistic. i hope that solves any confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJT515 View Post
    ok, i didn't really want to get in to this conversation again, but i will explain. the Bible says to not eat the fat of animals. when i eat for example ground chuck, i can't really do anything about the fat in it. but if i eat a piece of steak and it has some extra bits of fat hanging off of it, i will cut it off and give it to my dogs. i am trying to be as realistically obiedient as i can without being legalistic. i hope that solves any confusion.
    No not really, it seems to me that if you are avoiding animal fat due to religious reasons, you wouldn't eat meat at all.
    Is this Christianity? Or another religion? Not having a go, just curious. I would have thought it would need to be all or nothing thats all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJT515 View Post
    ok, i didn't really want to get in to this conversation again, but i will explain. the Bible says to not eat the fat of animals. when i eat for example ground chuck, i can't really do anything about the fat in it. but if i eat a piece of steak and it has some extra bits of fat hanging off of it, i will cut it off and give it to my dogs. i am trying to be as realistically obiedient as i can without being legalistic. i hope that solves any confusion.
    I haven't read thread and I'm not trying to get into a theological debate but that is legalism... be free Now if it goes againist your conscience then don't eat the fat. But if you aren't eating fat because you think you are obeying the law and in doing so it makes you right with God then what do you need Jesus for? If you believe in Jesus then God sees you through Jesus and nothing you could do could make you any more righteous in His eyes.
    I am Christian and I eat animal fat all the time but it doesn't go againist my conscience... God sees me through the blood of Jesus now and there's nothing I can do to make Him love me anymore than he already does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJT515 View Post
    when i eat for example ground chuck, i can't really do anything about the fat in it. but if i eat a piece of steak and it has some extra bits of fat hanging off of it, i will cut it off and give it to my dogs.
    I do this too, except I throw it away because I don't have a dog. It's not for religious reasons. I just don't like a mouthful of animal fat. I still manage to get about 40% of my calories from fat most days without making a mental effort to make up for my meat fat issues. I eat a couple of avocados a month, cook with butter (can you use that), olive oil and coconut oil and eat salmon once a week or so. My carbs have been all over the place during my weightloss, from 75-200g/day, and that hasn't seemed to have any impact on how fast the weight comes off. I am a dedicated calorie counter though.

    Just thought of something - could you eat chicken or duck skin? I never used to because I always thought of it as "bad" for you, but I discovered I like it crispy, so that's another source of fat.

    Personally, I don't see anything about your eating preferences that should keep you from enjoying 99% of the benefits of a primal diet. Enjoy!
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