I find that's the "fruitarian/raw vegan" paradox. Many vegans could safely argue they're using less resources and killing less animals than meat-eaters. Especially if said vegans eat minimal grain, eat locally, eat seasonally and grow some of their own food. But fruitarian-style vegans are in a funny category.
Originally Posted by Loneketo
As most of them can't eat locally (Wales, for example, isn't well know for bananas in Winter), they must buy supermarket foods. This means: animals are killed to create space for the crops, small animals and insects are killed by pesticides, animals are killed in harvesting, fish is killed in transporting it. Also, not eating seasonally or locally, they're using more fuel to get it home, leaving a larger carbon-footprint and altering the environment. Then factor in the fact slaves or ridiculously underpaid workers may have been employed, as most countries that can grow fruit in mid-Winter aren't exactly well-known for treating low-level workers well.
Now also consider that, due to the sheer volume of food they're eating, they're actually consuming more resources than meat-eaters who eat corn-fed meats. (Most animals aren't fed the parts of grain used in human food anyway, but some vegans argue that the food put towards animals would've gone to feeding humans. HOWEVER, a fruitarian is eating four to five people's worth of fruit and veg at least. A meateater eating corn-fed meat, if you only factor-in the corn that was actually edible to humans, is using far less food-resources. A meateater eating pastured or silage-fed animals is using one person's worth of food.)
We have a group of people indirectly killing animals, exploiting workers, destroying forests, using up resources and leaving a carbon footprint. Yet most still think they carry the "Vegan Halo of Goodness" for not "endorsing" use and slaughter of animals. Not endorsing doesn't matter if your lack of "support" for the meat industry kills more animals than eating chicken thighs would.
Last edited by Kochin; 01-11-2013 at 04:53 PM.
I rarely talk to people about Paleo/Primal, but, when I do, it's when they're NOT complaining about their weight or health.
You see, I don't really "do" pity. And one thing I've learned about people is that they're more open to suggestion when they're happy and stable. When they complain they only ever want pity, not to be advised.