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    Gotcha...I will keep that in mind when I get to that point. I have fibromyalgia and I have learned if I over exercise I am down for several days. And trust me over exercise in this case is not what is normal. Much more than 30 min easy hike/walks or very light resistance will get me. Drives me crazy! Just one more thing to ass kick

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    PWO = post work out. I am adding them back because the workouts I do(Krav Maga) are heavily glycogen dependent. It helps with explosiveness needed for fighting.
    You know all those things you have always wanted to do? You should go do them.

    Nah.. I was always aware "they" were out to get me.. even before I became Primal..... Now I can just run faster if they find me-Dino Hunter

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    Quote Originally Posted by valmason01 View Post
    Good questions...I judge primarily by fasting glucose which is normally high. From what I understand that comes from the 'daw effect'. I have also been told that my numbers will be higher as I lose weight because of the consistent changes in my body. I use metformin only and my goal is to be off of it. The last couple of months have not been good at all as I said in the OP. I know I can't afford to give in like that! I do have high triglycerides though they have been coming down. That's where the wonderful genetics come in I am just now realizing the connection between thyroid and insulin. I was diagnosed with hypothyroid several years before type II. Seems like when Drs see that and look the family history there could be a more in depth conversation about the dangers.
    It can be hard to budge fasting glucose mostly because of that dawn effect. But if you do want to try a serious-self experiment I would recommend either keeping your daily carbs under 60 or test your bg after meals and adjust what you eat to keep it under 140 at 1 hour and under 120 at 2 hours. Do that for 3 months and then get both your A1c and your cholesterol tested. That should give you an A1c under 6 (even with no medication) and triglycerides under 80, unless your genetic pattern is unusually stubborn.
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    I will give that a try. That is pretty much where I was before I took a swan dive off the wagon. I had reached the pont where my bg was actually down a few points 1 hour after I ate, compared to just before I ate. Would prefer to get back there again

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    It can be hard to budge fasting glucose mostly because of that dawn effect. But if you do want to try a serious-self experiment I would recommend either keeping your daily carbs under 60 or test your bg after meals and adjust what you eat to keep it under 140 at 1 hour and under 120 at 2 hours. Do that for 3 months and then get both your A1c and your cholesterol tested. That should give you an A1c under 6 (even with no medication) and triglycerides under 80, unless your genetic pattern is unusually stubborn.
    You know all those things you have always wanted to do? You should go do them.

    Nah.. I was always aware "they" were out to get me.. even before I became Primal..... Now I can just run faster if they find me-Dino Hunter

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    T1.5 here. My mom was diabetic when I was very young. I remember giving her her insulin shots when I was 4. Her family is diabetic as well (they're all T2).

    I was diagnosed as T2 in fall 2002. Was put on an insulin pump in 2008, and was completely drug free by the end of 2010 when I discovered Primal. Primal helped me stay drug free from Jan 2011 to August of this year when I had to go back on for pregnancy. I should be drug free again by June at the latest.
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    Wow That is my goal. No meds. Do you mind sharing a little bit of what you did?

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    T1.5 here. My mom was diabetic when I was very young. I remember giving her her insulin shots when I was 4. Her family is diabetic as well (they're all T2).

    I was diagnosed as T2 in fall 2002. Was put on an insulin pump in 2008, and was completely drug free by the end of 2010 when I discovered Primal. Primal helped me stay drug free from Jan 2011 to August of this year when I had to go back on for pregnancy. I should be drug free again by June at the latest.
    You know all those things you have always wanted to do? You should go do them.

    Nah.. I was always aware "they" were out to get me.. even before I became Primal..... Now I can just run faster if they find me-Dino Hunter

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    SW 215 lbs
    CW 180 lbs (whole foods/primal eating)
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    Quote Originally Posted by valmason01 View Post
    Wow That is my goal. No meds. Do you mind sharing a little bit of what you did?
    I dropped 80 pounds (Oct 09 through Jan '11). Did it on a CW low fat/high protein/high carb diet. Got super active (chronic cardio). Unfortunately I've put most of that weight back on now, but I'm super eager to get back to running 5k's. I definitely attribute the low carb life to keeping my a1c in check. It was right around 5.5 for at least a year. Now that I'm back on the pump, it's been 5.1 & 5.2 at last 2 check ups.

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    The days when I am struggling with wanting potatoes and rice I wonder if I could just lose weight and fix the diabetes without caring about carbs. I know the ultimate answer to that But it sounds good.

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    I dropped 80 pounds (Oct 09 through Jan '11). Did it on a CW low fat/high protein/high carb diet. Got super active (chronic cardio). Unfortunately I've put most of that weight back on now, but I'm super eager to get back to running 5k's. I definitely attribute the low carb life to keeping my a1c in check. It was right around 5.5 for at least a year. Now that I'm back on the pump, it's been 5.1 & 5.2 at last 2 check ups.

    More of my story here:
    The Primal Junk Foodie: About The Author
    You know all those things you have always wanted to do? You should go do them.

    Nah.. I was always aware "they" were out to get me.. even before I became Primal..... Now I can just run faster if they find me-Dino Hunter

    Age 46
    height 5'3
    SW 215 lbs
    CW 180 lbs (whole foods/primal eating)
    LW 172 lbs
    GW 125ish lbs

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    I was diagnosed with T2 when I eas admitted to the hospital for a respiratory infection about 8 yrs ago. The drs. than put me on 2 diabetic meds, high blood pressure meds, chokestrol meds. The last two because I had a family history of high bp and all gp's died of heart attack or stroke. My brother who is a year older had two heart attacks already.

    A couple of years ago I joined a gym. Cardio was not helping. I got a pt. Little by little the dr reduced than eliminated my meds. He didn't have a choice. I was getting so nauseated during exercise he had to do something. A couple of times I almost passed out. By a fluke I started to check my bp before and after exercise. The days I was most nauseated by bp dropped considerably. Doc thought this was very abnormal so sent me to get several echocardiograms. Once I had to wear a portable one for 48hrs.

    Other than having a heart murmer my heart showed no damage or abnormalties. So he took me off hbp and statins. weaned me off diabetes. Every time I would get nauseated he brought the dose lower. When I got consistantly low (generally in the 20-30.) he took me off permantly.

    When I started the journey I was wearing a tight 24. Now at an 18. Plan to get lower but have had to many cheats.

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    I know its a journey. i am like you, trying to get lower. I did great all year and the damn holidays killed me. I have figured out that canola oils, vegetable oils, seed oils, all those oils that things like chips or corn chips are cooked in makes my sinus' completely clog up to the point of vertigo. I think I have finally figured out how to convince myself not to eat them. It just took me a while to make the connection..<face palm>

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    I was diagnosed with T2 when I eas admitted to the hospital for a respiratory infection about 8 yrs ago. The drs. than put me on 2 diabetic meds, high blood pressure meds, chokestrol meds. The last two because I had a family history of high bp and all gp's died of heart attack or stroke. My brother who is a year older had two heart attacks already.

    A couple of years ago I joined a gym. Cardio was not helping. I got a pt. Little by little the dr reduced than eliminated my meds. He didn't have a choice. I was getting so nauseated during exercise he had to do something. A couple of times I almost passed out. By a fluke I started to check my bp before and after exercise. The days I was most nauseated by bp dropped considerably. Doc thought this was very abnormal so sent me to get several echocardiograms. Once I had to wear a portable one for 48hrs.

    Other than having a heart murmer my heart showed no damage or abnormalties. So he took me off hbp and statins. weaned me off diabetes. Every time I would get nauseated he brought the dose lower. When I got consistantly low (generally in the 20-30.) he took me off permantly.

    When I started the journey I was wearing a tight 24. Now at an 18. Plan to get lower but have had to many cheats.
    You know all those things you have always wanted to do? You should go do them.

    Nah.. I was always aware "they" were out to get me.. even before I became Primal..... Now I can just run faster if they find me-Dino Hunter

    Age 46
    height 5'3
    SW 215 lbs
    CW 180 lbs (whole foods/primal eating)
    LW 172 lbs
    GW 125ish lbs

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    Yes sometimes I cave to peer pressure. When peanutbutter cups or plain chocolate mock me, I fight back by eating them.

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