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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    Nah, just beat him senseless with the salami. Then leave.
    That could be fun too.

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    Probably not! But let's say that my family signed a declaration that I could not longer take care of myself, and that I would eat myself to death if not going to the obesity asylum! Let's say the whole issue is in the future some hundred years from now, with laws to save morbide obese persons from destroying themselves...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiana View Post
    You would scar them mentally for life. It's been done before, just not with fat people.

    Minnesota Starvation Experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I just went to that link. I agreed before I read some of this, though. I have heard serious researchers recount stories from the aftermath of WWII, and the (Allied) psychologists had their hands more than full trying to emotionally/psychologically aid the victims of semi-starvation/near-fatal-starvation states, and it surprised them that this psychological support was just as important as the improved nutrition.

    I have had a small bit to do with social workers who work for adoption agencies specializing in foster care/state/very-hard-to-place adoptions, and the behaviors and food issues of these kids (especially those who suffered neglect) is huge.

    I know that you aren't doing this thought experiment with a stated thought-purpose of abusing obese persons, but that is what you are going to get (psychological scars), even if you do provide nutritional support along with a very-low-calorie diet. I think you are going to get this even if the obese folks are fully aware beforehand of what awaits them.

    I am with Dr. bork bork - keep this idea and work on the novel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiana View Post
    You would scar them mentally for life. It's been done before, just not with fat people.

    Minnesota Starvation Experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    And the good thing by being fat in this context, I suppose, is that the very obese person can go for a much longer time before starvation, so I don't think those experiments are comparable…

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanmercer View Post
    Cannibalism.
    That's pretty serious, so we have to put some guards inside the camp as well, if that's the case! Do you really think it could go that far?

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    still mentally unhealthy
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    yeah you are

    I mean there's so many ants in my eyes! And there are so many TVs, microwaves, radios... I think, I can't, I'm not 100% sure what we have here in stock.. I don't know because I can't see anything! Our prices, I hope, aren't too low!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodorchid View Post
    still mentally unhealthy
    It's not very healthy to continue to eat yourself into the grave either! Remember in this though experiment we are dealing with morbid obesity, softer metods has been tried out first and failed, this is the last resort so to say...

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    maybe it's the spirit of darwin flittering hither and yon among the population

    one day it'll be the 800 lb man fused to his mattress, the next day it'll be the woman smoking while cleaning her oven with fume-heavy chemicals
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    I mean there's so many ants in my eyes! And there are so many TVs, microwaves, radios... I think, I can't, I'm not 100% sure what we have here in stock.. I don't know because I can't see anything! Our prices, I hope, aren't too low!

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    Yeah well in Feb. 2012 I weighed 518 lbs so I guess I'm a perfect candidate for your experiment. Perhaps all of us sub-human morbidly obese people can complete Hunger Games style for that hunk of salami or a large pizza with everything. Perhaps the last morbidly obese man or woman standing can win themselves a life of luxury and a lap band or gastric bypass for their efforts. Maybe we should just make these reducing camps compulsory for everyone weighing over 400 lbs and let the obesity crisis sort itself out.

    It just so happens that as of last week I've lost 195 lbs since February. I still have tons more to lose, I'm still morbidly obese, and I regret and am humiliated that I ever got to the size I was. I feel worse about it than anyone could ever make me feel by sticking me into a camp against my will.

    There was no surgery, no armed guards, no forced starvation or calorie restriction except that which I imposed upon myself. What you're not getting in all your smug moral superiority is that you can put us in camps for one month, one year, or one decade, but unless you're going to keep us segregated into forced weight loss camps for the rest of our lives (which I'm sure would be just fine with most people out there who probably wish everyone morbidly obese would just hurry up and die already anyway) these camps will do nothing to cure obesity in the long term. Nothing anyone ever tried to do for me made one bit of difference until I made the decision to change my life. You are grossly underestimating the mental aspect of losing weight and maintaining weight loss. Even if your camp provides therapy morning noon and night you can't force anyone into any sort of rehab until and unless they're ready for it.

    I think your idea is completely over-simplifying, crass, mocking, dehumanizing and marginalizing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorbag View Post
    That's pretty serious, so we have to put some guards inside the camp as well, if that's the case! Do you really think it could go that far?
    Yeah why not? If we start eating each other we can just call it "eat MOAR fat" and it'll be all good. The hell with the guards, we ate them already, they were too lean to do much with though.

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