Primal diet - Pros and Cons? page 16

[Derpamix]

Metabolic rate directly correlates with longevity and intelligence. It's interdependent at all levels, when you have the ability to do something, you do it. There is no "more efficient" metabolism.

[JoanieL]

see? religion

i see methodists and baptists and CoC, maybe catholics, all fussing about how to get to heaven

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky

[Derpamix]

I like APC's cover of that song

oh now that you quote something it's not as cool

[bloodorchid]

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky

Now that it's raining more than ever
Know that we'll still have each other
You can stand under my umbrella
You can stand under my umbrella
(Ella ella, ay ay ay)

[Zach]

Best, your experience mirrors mine exactly. Very interesting. Why do you not eat dairy?

As for the evolutionary perspective. It seems pretty bunk to begin with. We live here and now, nothing at all like our ancestors from 100,000 years ago or even 10,000 years ago. If anything its our last two or three generations that would have the greatest impact on our health. Maybe our DNA is not muched changed but what about our gut microbes, our tastes, even our thoughts. We cant replacate paleo man and maybe it would not even be beneficial to try. There is plenty of evidence to show that as a species we are bigger, stronger, live longer and are smarter then our ancestors even of a few hundred years ago. Maybe it is the excess calories and availability to year round foods that is the driving factor?

And before anyone says it, yes there is a epidemic of disease, but im not talking about a diet of frankenfoods and seed oils but real foods, high in calories, fats, carbs and protein. Everyone here knows what im saying even if they want to scream bullshit and point to a SAD. (I hate that term, it implys that anyone not on a certain diet is eating horribly and has multiple diseases.)

I guess what im saying is that just because something isnt paleo or doesnt jive with how a person from that era would do things does not automatically mean it is unhealthy in the short or even long term (example, eating high amounts of sugar.). Context always matters.

[Derpamix]

No one understands the fallacy right in front of their face. You can't accurately, and unbiasedly judge how much sugar is actually being consumed. How much is pure sugar, ie; not consumed with other chemical laden trash, hfcs, high fat content(Changes in glucose to... [Am J Physiol Regul Integr Comp Physiol. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI), etc;

I bet when you remove all those factors and consider how much pure sugar is being consumed alone, the number would drastically decline. It's even on the decline now, thanks to viral messages spinning unfounded lies about the deleterious health effects of sugar. Many ignorant health conscious Americans are swapping sugar for artificial sweeteners like splenda, aspartame, et al and yet, health is declining.

Lustig's crappy viral video spurring up fear mongering shows exactly how gullible people really are.

[Zach]

No one understands the fallacy right in front of their face. You can't accurately, and unbiasedly judge how much sugar is actually being consumed. How much is pure sugar, ie; not consumed with other chemical laden trash, hfcs, high fat content(Changes in glucose to... [Am J Physiol Regul Integr Comp Physiol. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI), etc;

I bet when you remove all those factors and consider how much pure sugar is being consumed alone, the number would drastically decline. It's even on the decline now, thanks to viral messages spinning unfounded lies about the deleterious health effects of sugar. Many ignorant health conscious Americans are swapping sugar for artificial sweeteners like splenda, aspartame, et al and yet, health is declining.

Lustig's crappy viral video spurring up fear mongering shows exactly how gullible people really are.

And its not just sugar. Saturated fats for pufa oils, wheat for gluten free, salt for a potassium substitute. People in power distort facts to generate fear and get people to buy something that they are selling. Nevermind that pure sugar, salt, animal fat and wheat have been around for thousands of years and these new "healthy" alternatives were just cooked up in a lab less the. 100 years ago.

[Derpamix]

Donning my tin foil hat for a moment -- You have to wonder how much is just ignorance on the researchers part(not looking at the whole picture, taking a skewed and utterly flawed test and running with it) and how much of it is just who's pocket they're in. I've learned to basically do the exact opposite of whatever mainstream beliefs suggest me.

[bloodorchid]

studies have shown that tin foil hats AMPLIFY government control rays

you're playing right into their hands

[Zach]

Donning my tin foil hat for a moment -- You have to wonder how much is just ignorance on the researchers part(not looking at the whole picture, taking a skewed and utterly flawed test and running with it) and how much of it is just who's pocket they're in. I've learned to basically do the exact opposite of whatever mainstream beliefs suggest me.

Why would any scientist or researcher do anything if not for the money. It just depends on who is going to pay them more for what they have to say.