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    Which would you rather watch?

    I'll give the background to this one.

    Yesterday I was having a drink with sone friends and was astounded to hear someone say: "James Bond is miles better than the Hobbit". That just seemed to me such a philistine thing to say. I don't think he's seen the film, and maybe Jackson doesn't make a good fist of it, but I suppose he's going by the book. But if so -- really ...

    I suppose Fleming has a good plain prose style, and I suppose any reasonably intelligent boy passing through an expensive English public school education in those days would have. (Ignorant of science possibly, but able to construe a sentence almost certainly.) As I remember, one can probably expect a reasonably interesting plot and some lively incident. There'll be some humour (more perhaps in the films than the books). That, I think, is probably about as far as the virtues go.

    With the Hobbit you have what must surely be one of the greatest children's books ever written. At an artistic level there is a sure hand with both prose and poetry. It also draws on over a thousand years of literature, and that material is reworked in interesting and unusual ways. It's charmingly written and has a good deal of wit and humour. It evokes wonder and longings for the I-don't-know-what. At a moral, even spiritual, level it's a deeply serious book. While it's for children (unlike the same author's later books) and written to their level, it touches on important matters like loyalty (and its proper limits), the nature of evil, forgiveness, mercy and much else, none of which you're going to find treated in an Ian Fleming novel.

    The Bond novels, by contrast, seem nihilistic at their heart. If there is a "value" in them it's probably snobbery. They're about the best suit, the best shirt, the best car, the best champagne. And there's also a sprinkling of how to tell a lower-class person from the way he knots his tie or holds his cutlery. Their attitude to sexual relations is deplorable -- depersonalized and predatory. They are, perhaps, the original "sex and shopping" novels. You could get some entertainment from the novels -- although something by Ian's brother Peter would probably give you a little more in that way -- you couldn't get anything else.

    But maybe it's just me. What would other people sooner watch?

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    I'd watch Bond but I'd read The Hobbit.

    That's my preference as someone who has never read an Ian Fleming novel, and has never (yet) seen the film version of The Hobbit.

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    The Hobbit. Why? I like stories more than explosions. And with Gandalf there will likely be quite a few fireballs as well. Aimed at worgs.
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    I read The Hobbit and The Trilogy in high school, and I want to retain those images in my mind. I've seen some short scenes from the movies and they are lovely, but my mental versions of all the characters are what I want to keep.

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    The Hobbit, definitely. I'm a fantasy fan, and I can't stand Daniel Craig.
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    I never liked James Bond. I just re-read the Hobbit, and I would prefer watching the Hobbit over James Bond. I haven't been to a cinema in years, but maybe I go and see the Hobbit together with my father!

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    I would have picked the hobbit, but I saw it last night, and I was very disappointed. James Bond would be a wise choice.
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    I'm a Tolkein fan, yet on a base animalistic level I find Daniel Craig v sexy, hence I'm in a quandry :-)

    Much prefer reading Tolkein to watching a high-budget hollywood movie version. I've seen the first of the Lord of the Rings Films and decided that it I did not want to go back for more, as it destroyed the magic.

    I've read Lord of the Rings three times and find it very special and highly original. Especially the Ents mourning the loss of the Entwives. I have a strong affinity with trees (not quite up to hugging them yet). There is so much other magical stuff and charming humour in Tolkein. I find the creative and sympathetic use of language amazing too, especially the Elf names such as Legolas.

    I've read the Hobbit 2 or 3 times. The Silmarillion only once - that felt akin to reading through the history of the queens and kings of england and feigning interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoanieL View Post
    I read The Hobbit and The Trilogy in high school, and I want to retain those images in my mind. I've seen some short scenes from the movies and they are lovely, but my mental versions of all the characters are what I want to keep.
    I read The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings more times than I care to admit. Zero interest in the movies for the above reason. Hollywood sucks the joy out of everything it touches by default.
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